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Sun and Apple Could Have Merged

Firmafest writes "The Register is running a story about Sun and Apple almost merging on three separate occasions. The information was revealed at a Computer History Museum event, where Sun's four co-founders spoke about the history of the Sun company. Bill Joy said that the two comp anies almost teamed on three different projects, including sharing a user interface and the SPARC architecture." From the article: "'As far as I know we also almost bought Apple once,' Joy said. 'We almost merged with Apple two other times.' Many Silicon Valley observers have long seen links between Sun and Apple. Both companies make slick, pricey hardware and are counter-punchers in their respective markets. They also have charismatic CEO figures and strong anti-Microsoft streaks"

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  1. I'll say it again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Both companies make slick, pricey hardware...


    I'll say it one more time, and make sure you pay attention:

    Dollar for dollar, Apple hardware is a bargain. It's not "pricey"... calling something pricey implies it costs more than it's worth. Apple hardware is worth every penny, and I'd say you'd have a really difficult time building comparable equipment for significantly less cost. And when I say comparable, I mean comparable. For example, you can't compare XServe RAID to the cheapass RAID card and 10 drives you coddled together from crap you bought at ComputersRNeat.com.

    1. Re:I'll say it again... by shaitand · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are associating false value to the product. If the product specifications are comparable the systems are comparable. Nobody in the history of Mac Fans has been able to prove on a slashdot forum that a decent (not their crap economy models) Mac can be had in the ballpark of a pc.

    2. Re:I'll say it again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Dollar for dollar, Apple hardware is a bargain. It's not "pricey"...

      No. Apples hardware is expensive.

      calling something pricey implies it costs more than it's worth.

      Incorrect The definition of 'pricey' is 'Expensiv' unless you're talking stocks.

  2. Low End Mac has more background by swid27 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Low End Mac has more information about the Apple/Sun dealings here (yes, I'm well aware that this article was featured on /. a few weeks back) and here.

  3. market caps by derniers · · Score: 2, Informative

    way back when Sun's market cap (now about 11 B) was bigger than Apple's (now about 72B), just two years ago the market caps were about the same

  4. Re:more similarities betweeb Apple and Sun by MSFanBoi2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lets get something correct, MacOS X is NOT Open Source. Never has been, never will be. Yes, Darwin may be, but MacOS X is not totally Darwin.

    Not to mention Apple DID NOT invent WebObjects, they BOUGHT WebObjects.

  5. Somebody said SPARC laptop? by Tony · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean like this?

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  6. Re:McNealy loves the network by bholdsworth · · Score: 2, Informative

    While computer power and storage can be seen to double every 18 months, the same cannot be said for RF spectrum. There are hard limits to how much data can be packed into a given wireless network. Using the cellular network as a personalized radio station with iPod-level audio fidelity is more than a few years off. Voice calls only need ~8kbps, and carriers already have capacity problems.

  7. Re:more similarities betweeb Apple and Sun by NatasRevol · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, the Unix part of OS X is open source, which is what the GP was saying:

    http://www.opendarwin.org/
    And it's been running on x86 for quite some time.

    It's GUI is not.
    But I can see your confusion.

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  8. Re:more similarities betweeb Apple and Sun by kwerle · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not to mention Apple DID NOT invent WebObjects, they BOUGHT WebObjects.

    They invented WO in the same way they got their OS. They bought NeXT.

  9. Re:more similarities betweeb Apple and Sun by kwerle · · Score: 2, Informative

    OpenStep [wikipedia.org] was the result of a collaboration of NeXT and Sun to create an object oriented API based on NeXTSTEP. It ran on NeXTs Mach/BSD OS and Solaris. After the NeXT takeover by Apple in 1996 OpenStep became what today is known as MacOS X, still running on Mach/BSD.

    It is worth noting that OpenStep also ran on windows. In the Apple era, this was briefly known as "Yellow Box".

  10. Re:Apple could buy Sun by mclaincausey · · Score: 2, Informative

    OS X certainly "uses" a microkernel, Mach, but it's not used as a microkernel.

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