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iCell in the Works?

SirWraith writes "Ars Technica is running a story speculating on the possibility of an Apple cellphone." From the article: "At last week's CES, Motorola officially dumped Apple with its new ROKR E2 phone and its new iRadio digital music service. ... After the ROKR's lackluster launch, speculation abounded that Apple was saving the 'good' iTunes phone for itself, and the new 'Mobile Me' trademark lends credence to that line of thinking. At this stage of the game, it looks like Apple is moving in the direction of launching its own cellular service complete with its own lineup of phones (or phone, as the case may be)."

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  1. This wouldn't surprise me.... by FalconZero · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Portable device convergence has been obvious for years, with the inclusion of cameras, music players, video players, video calling, games etc... being crammed into mobile phones, it's unsurprising that Apple would want to segway its iPod market into the mobile phone market.

    Which would you rather have? An iPod, or a phone with an iPod built in? If Apple doesn't capitalise on the current media and consumer 'love' for iPods, then the plethora of other devices with similar or superior function will destroy Apples market (and it's only so long before flash storage becomes comperable in capacity to drive based iPods.)

    Apple could quite easily pull off a 'one phone' network not because it was technically superior or cheaper than other networks/handsets, but because Apple would do what Apple does best, give it a slick UI/customer experience and use their flair at advertising to buy the market.

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    1. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.... by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which would you rather have? An iPod, or a phone with an iPod built in?

      personally, I'd prefer they be seperate -- but that's me. It's kind of difficult to use your phone while using your iPod, isn't it?

      The iPod was successful because the design and interface was clean and "sexy". Do you think that by adding phone, camera, and whatever other capabilities to the device that they will be able to keep it "clean and sexy"? I don't.

    2. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.... by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Which would you rather have? An iPod, or a phone with an iPod built in?

      I want a phone that has crystal clear voice and never drops a call and has an 8 hour talk time and a 2 week standby time. I don't want it to have a camera, web browsing, a PDA, mp3 player, or any other garbage and I want it to be as small as possible while still being sturdy. For mp3 playing I'll use my iPod.

    3. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.... by telekon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If they had just built bluetooth into the damn iPod, this wouldn't be an issue. One headset, two devices, one device, eight, who cares... switch back and forth, transfer files without a bunch of cables... oh, wait, that would be too easy. Seriously. The RIAA ruins everything. Not that I don't love my sexy Moto RAZR, and my iPod, but the RAZR has bluetooth and it's SMALLER than the iPod. if both had bluetooth... life would be simpler. But, no, life can't be nice and easy. Fucking RIAA. Okay, this wasn't intended as a rant, but I seriously want to lynch those bastards... or at least force them to listen to the bilious phlegm that they pass off as music.

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    4. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.... by IronTek · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I was against the concept of a camera in a cell phone for a longtime.

      After I got a phone that had one, I started to think what it would be good for. I figured it was a comfort to have it in the case of an accident.

      Sure enough, I got into a small fender-bender in a parking lot. It was completely the other person's fault (they backed into me), but they later tried to blame me! Luckily, after it happened, I snapped some pics on my phone and sent them to my insurance company and theirs.

      The photos show clearly where my car was and where their car was. My insurance company didn't pay a dime. I received a check from theirs.

      So I don't think convergence in this respect is a bad thing.

    5. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which would you rather have? An iPod, or a phone with an iPod built in?

      Both. Here's how:

      1) Purchase a cell phone. Get whatever you want, it doesn't matter.
      2) Purchase an iPod Nano.
      3) Purchase a role of duct tape.
      4) Purchase a book instructing you in the proper use of duct tape. "Red Green's 10,001 Uses for Duct Tape" is highly recommended.
      5) Using your newfound knowledge in high precision engineering, duct tape the iPod Nano to your cell phone.

      Now you too have a phone and iPod combination all in one, but with none of those silly limitations on the number of songs! Just flip your phone one direction to talk to people, and flip it the other direction to switch the song you're listening to. What could be better? :-D

      P.S. 6) Profit!!!

    6. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.... by arendjr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      personally, I'd prefer they be seperate -- but that's me. It's kind of difficult to use your phone while using your iPod, isn't it?

      Isn't that an advantage? If you're listening to your iPod, you might not hear your phone ringing. So, if they are the same device, the music can automatically stop when you start calling or an incoming call arrives. Makes sense to me...

    7. Re:This wouldn't surprise me.... by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Funny
      Portable device convergence has been obvious for years, with the inclusion of cameras, music players, video players, video calling, games etc... being crammed into mobile phones, it's unsurprising that Apple would want to segway its iPod market into the mobile phone market.

      There ya go! Next step: Apple merges with Segway, to produce the Segintosh, which merges phone, video, music and computing with a handy transportation device, only $22,000 USD!

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  2. Ironically ... by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You may recall from yesterday an article on Sun and Apple's possible mergers. Interestingly enough, at the bottom of that article you will find:
    "Your iPod is like your home answering machine," McNealy said. "I guarantee you it will be hard to sell an iPod five or seven years from now when every cell phone can access your entire music library wherever you are."

    Well, sure. Unless your iPod is your cell phone.
    Perhaps the author of that article had a lot of insight and perhaps they already new about this news.

    Either way, I'll follow suit and ask how much longer will it be until the iPod is your computer, media player, internet access, cell phone, credit card, personal identification, financial recorder/advisor, taser, keyless entry and pace maker?
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  3. Tiger Can Rotate the Screen As Well by Kasracer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Another interesting development is, when Tiger originally came out, a new feature was added that no hardware currently takes advantage of. Tiger can rotate it's screen just like all other Table PCs and most PocketPCs.

    Off hand I don't remember how to force it to do so, but Tiger does have this feature. Combined with the new trademark, we may see an Apple PDA and/or Tablet sometime this year.

  4. Apple Patent by catwh0re · · Score: 4, Interesting
    In other mobile phone related news, Apple have a new patent for a screen that doubles as a camera. (In Soviet Russia, Screen looks at you!)

    Amongst the uses they include mobile phones.

    Also can someone stop beating this rumour to death. They'll release it when they figure out a cool name for the product iCell just sounds lame, especially with the supersecret spreadsheet applications "Cells" (amongst a host of other rumours.) With the latest Apple nomenclature, it'd probable be MacPhone.

  5. Apple will simply buy a network by astonishedelf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have on this website and on another predicted that Apple will simply buy a mobile phone network. Before anyone argues that they don't have the market cap, I will say that smaller fish have been known to swallow biggers ones, and I believe that there are venture capitalists and banks that would be prepared to back Apple on this one. It's the only logical way to go.

  6. Possible Look of iPhone by schlpbch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Isamu Sanada is an industial designer who designs fictious
    Apple products in his spare time:

    http://www.applele.com/index.html
    http://www.applele.com/pictures.html

    I personally favor this iPhone design:

    http://www.applele.com/pict_04hipod_r02.html

    Almost better than the real thing!

  7. Not Really Apple's Business by necro81 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't get me wrong, I think that Apple can produce a winner in any tech area if it set its collective mind and resources to it. But, in my opinion, I don't really think this is something Apple would want to try. Apple has no technological experience in cell phone technology, other than what it might have learned from Motorola during their brief collaboration. The market is already awash in cell phones. Granted, few of them have the panache of the iPod, and they are bloated in pointless features that could be done much better. The profit margins for cell phones are much slimmer than the iPod, even for something high-end like the RAZR. Could Apple produce something with both iPod and cellphone technology crammed into it, and still charge a reasonable market price for it?

    When Apple hit the mp3-player scene in 2002, there were some competing products from mostly small companies that had limitations due to the necessary tradeoffs. But, mp3-players were a nascent luxury item at the time, whereas cellphones are now, more or less, a commodity item. Almost nobody at the time had experience in mp3-player design and manufacture, whereas cellular phones are a mature product. Consider the players in today's cellphone market: Samsung, Motorola, Nokia, and about a dozen others that aren't as prevalent in the U.S. In comparison to the mp3-player market of 2002, the cellphone market of today is a cut-throught, kill-or-be-killed, Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle"-like world filled with a bunch of predators.

    Even if Apple were to make an iCell, what would it do with it? Without a service provider to back it, the phone is dead-on-arrival. Will the allure of Apple's logo and the iPod brand be enough for service providers to risk the wrath of the other cellphone manufacturers? I don't know.

    I guess if a convergence between the iPod and a cellphone is inevitable, then I'd prefer Apple to take a crack at it first (and don't cite the ROKR as a counterexample, that thing was a kludge of competing interests). Steve Jobs has often said that cellphones are poorly designed - trying to get the feature list make up for the fact that they aren't better thought out. Still, is this something that Apple really wants to be a part of?

  8. Cell or VOIP? by FishandChips · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Other speculation is that the play here isn't for a conventional cellphone. It's for VOIP.

    A conventional cellphone means that Apple would have to kowtow to all the carriers and their phone would be just one phone among a plethora of other, well-established outfits (Nokia, Moto, Samsung, whoever).

    But a VOIP phone using wifi would enable Apple to sidestep being just another player and control the whole thing all the way down the line. Of course there is the minor problem of establishing a huge wifi network, but maybe this is where Google and friends come in, and anyway didn't someone say this is all wild, wild speculation?

    Can't recall where I read this. Mabye yesterday on Slashdot :)

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