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Alternative Energy Confusion

Posted by Zonk on from the nuclear-energy-needed dept.

pcnetworx1 writes "New York State is starting to get crunched for electricity. While other states may just say 'pop a couple more coal/oil/natural gas/nuclear power plants down', NY has decided to take the green route. NY State wants to get more power by strategically placing windmill powerplants in upstate NY to help the grid. While getting a dedicated power plant placed on your property for FREE (and being paid $3,000 a year per tower) may sounds good to some Slashdotters, the citizens in upstate NY still need some education in the safety of alternative energy."

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  1. Use less energy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why don't folks just use less energy? I mean, come on. Unneeded outside lighting, all the lights on inside, monitors left on all night long at work. People need to conserve energy a lot more than they need to start producing more of it.

    1. Re:Use less energy by CyricZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's basically a tragedy of the commons situation. Even if it is metered, electricity is so widely available and so relatively cheap that the people there have very little incentive to make efficient use of it.

      Of course, that situation may very well change, if they do not get their act together. Then, like any other scarce resource, electricity will become very wisely efficiently allocated by the market.

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      Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
  2. People can't have their cake and eat it too! by grqb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to be a bit skeptical about some of these claims about wind turbines:

    1. Wind turbines make the same noises as Nazi troops torturing Jews? WTF??
    2. Wind turbines causing women to have multiple menstrual cycles a month?

    Come on. The real issue is that these people think wind turbines will decrease their property value. They don't have to make up shit like this. Especially if you compare the health effects of what would be built instead of wind turbines...probably coal power plants, which would be far worse health wise.

    That being said, wind power is definitely inconsistent. From what I've heard about Denmark, which has the most wind power per capita in the world, most Danes are so untrusting of the quality of their electricity that they wouldn't even think about powering something without a UPS, otherwise they'd fry their electronics. Can any Danes back that up?

  3. To be fair... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Town board members surveyed the population and found that only 5.5 percent of townspeople are against the wind farm, while 58 percent are for it.

    Of COURSE the news outlets are going to interview the squeaky wheels. Sells more copies.

    I imagine in any population, you can find 5% who are against something, no matter how good an idea it may be.
    That 5% will get pushed aside, so that the rest of us can get on with things.

  4. Upstate NY by NitsujTPU · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm in upstate NY.

    Politics are on the lips of just about every person residing in upstate, as far as I can see. I couldn't go down from my office to get a coffee in Collegetown without overhearing at least 2 or 3 townies discussing politics if I wanted to.

    It's also a fertile breeding ground for rather furious debate about such things. The Socialist party has a strong presence here (seriously, and they're proud to be Socialist). The town prints 2 forms of currency to be used in addition to US currency, City Bucks and Ithaca Hours.

    So, to hear people talking about building wind farms in upstate is unsurprising. People have been talking about that for quite a while.

    The flip side, however, is that you can always hear opponents of such actions. For instance, Cornell University does its cooling with water from the Cayuga River. We're not talking about dumping hot water into the river. Cold water from the Cayuga is pumped through campus buildings to cool them, reducing the amount of energy required by the campus. As far as sustainable, environmentally sound solutions are concenred, it's probably one of the cleanest ways to do it. It's definately pushing the curve a bit and showing that such solutions are viable.

    This solution has vocal opponents as well.

    To be brief, you can find just about any statement, as long as it's left-wing, that you want in upstate, and, according to people who've lived her longer than I, quite a few right wing ones too if you look hard enough. It's just the nature of upstate. People like politics.