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Red Flag Linux Distributor Joins OSDL

segphault writes "Ars Technica reports that Red Flag Linux has joined the OSDL." From the article: "Founded in 2000 through the Chinese Academy of Sciences, Red Flag's Linux software line includes desktop, server, and embedded Linux distributions. Red Flag's products are extremely popular in China, where their desktop Linux distribution is favored by many developers. Red Flag frequently collaborates with other Linux distributors in the region, like Korea's Haansoft and Japan's Miracle Linux."

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  1. What I'm curious about is... by mmThe1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .... by joining OSDL, are they going to "commit" some of their resources for research/development *online* only? What difference does it then make if the company is in China, or any other country then? The article focussed much on growth of Linux in China, rather than 'Red Flag', OSDL, and whatever they are planning to do.

    1. Re:What I'm curious about is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The more Chinese taking up Linux, the better as it will only increase marketshare for the OS and encourage more developers to port/write programs for it.

      The rate of consumer growth in the major Chinese cities is astounding and likley the reason why the article focuses more on that.

    2. Re:What I'm curious about is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That is the big question isn't it? I'm quite leary of Red Flag because while they are eager to take Red Hat and build some very nice improvements and tools upon it, they are rather reluctant to share the code. Red Flag has a history of not releasing the source and although they are less bad about it, they still don't release the source.

      Case in point, Red Flag is presently shipping version 5 of their product. They offer several different version 5 servers for sale but there is not source to be found. In their download area you can download some trial versions and release candidates of their products but notice the lack of recent versions. If you probe their site, you can find this unlinked page that allows you to download Chinese versions of some of the newer server products but, again, no source.

      Considering Red Flag's track record I'm very disappointed that OSDL let Red Flag in but, I guess money talks and since Red Flag is government backed, they have lots of money. Regardless of their OSDL membership, I still regard Red Flag as hostile to and the GPL.

  2. Link by Life700MB · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Here's the link to the official red-flag linux web.


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  3. A disturbing development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is this what we in the Linux community really need? A Chinaman developer? Having read the article thoroughly, this startling news shows the flaws in the brewing Open Source Zeitgeist that is gripping the software community. Have you considered that providing software for free to countries such as China is essentially tacit support for oppressive regimes?

    Far-fetched? Think about it: With MySQL, the People's Army will now be able to do multiple queries on their tables of democratic activists in Olog(n) time instead of lengthy searches in card catalogs. The bureaucratic overhead previously allowed activists enough time to flee the country. How about building cheap firewalls so the people can't get the unbiased reporting that CNN provides? Or using Apache to publish lists of Falun Gong people to their police forces instantly? I doubt that never crossed your minds when you were coding away in your parents' basements. Consider putting that little thought in your mental resolv.conf file.

    If that does not concern you ( which it probably doesn't, since the slashdot.org paradigm is publishing articles about how not to pay for things ), consider something else. When China eventually goes to war with Taiwan, we want to be able turn their command and control facilities into the computing equivalent of a train-wreck. One of the advantages of Windows never mentioned in the article is the ability of Microsoft to remotely deactivate Windows XP in the case of a national emergency. Thanks to GNU/Lunix, Taiwan will be on a collision course with the mainland in the near future.

    Which throws into question Mr. Stallman's motives. A known proponent of socialism, the Chinese government and RMS are natural allies. Could it be a back door to Stallman's dream of an uber-Socialist United States? We may never know for sure. Next time you consider contributing to an open source project, ask yourself this question: don't you want to make sure your work isn't used for nefarious purposes? Will you risk having blood on your hands?

    1. Re:A disturbing development by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      YES! Next time YOU buy a kitchen knife - you're telling companies that it's OK to make knives which may be used to KILL OTHER PEOPLE! THE BLOOD WILL BE ALL OVER YOUR HANDS!

      Next time YOU buy a car, you are voting with your purse strings and ENCOURAGING people to smash their cars into pedestrians in hit and run accidents? Is this the country we fought to win?

      WHEN YOU BUY ALCOHOL, you are signalling to the rest of the country that YOU ACCEPT a DRUNK SOCIETY. Let's ban ALL ALCOHOL so that will never.... oh,..... what that? They tried that already and it didn't work?

      *whistles and twiddles thumbs*

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    2. Re:A disturbing development by afa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because of your using of 'Fa_lun#Gong', the http connection is cut down by the Great Fire Wall, and only after using some https proxy, can I reply to you from China! Plz never ever ever ever use such dangerous word publicly! It's damned evil!

  4. Red Flag's products are extremely popular in China by dajobi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If by "popular" you mean the government attempts to force people to use their state-sponsored Linux distro to reduce dependence on American software, only to find that people respond by formatting their hard disks and installing pirate copies of Windows.

    It's kinda fitting really. I probably wouldn't want to use Linux anymore if the government were trying to force it on me. Especially if it were the Chinese government.

  5. Re:Warning!! by miffo.swe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What do you talk about, "we"?

    Im not any part of that so called "we" and i have no problem with their current ruling. Can you even imagine what would happen to the region if China was to dissolve? If you think the middle east is a mess now thats NOTHING compared to the demise of China. Id rather sit back and let democracy come in slowly than watch the US wreck havoc in yet another area throwing the whole region into full blown civil war. Both saddam and bin laden was put in place by the US, ring any bells?

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  6. Re:Red Flag's products are extremely popular in Ch by tpgp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If by "popular" you mean the government attempts to force people to use their state-sponsored Linux distro to reduce dependence on American software, only to find that people respond by formatting their hard disks and installing pirate copies of Windows.

    Nope, they don't mean popular by that - noone forces anyone to use it. Frankly i'm astounded that you think the Chinese peole would not want to use a local distro with better support for Chinese Characters & popular applications.

    There are plenty of reasons to dislike the Chinese Government - no need to go round making up new ones.

    It's kinda fitting really. I probably wouldn't want to use Linux anymore if the government were trying to force it on me. Especially if it were the Chinese government.

    Well thanks for sharuing your thoughts with us. Care to let us know why you believe people are being forced to use Red Flag?

    I'm sure its not because of some sort of irrational anti-chinese bias you have, so please provide links.

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  7. Prartners by pilsner.urquell · · Score: 3, Informative
    Red Flag frequently collaborates with other Linux distributors in the region, like Korea's Haansoft and Japan's Miracle Linux."

    Actually, no. Red Flag is a trinity member of Asianux http://www.asianux.com/about_us.php which develops (co-develops) the software these companies use.