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Home Network Data Storage Device

It happened again- a machine on my home network died. Taking with it tons of data. It's mostly backed up. No huge loss. But I finally think it's time to get some sort of network raid disk. A unified place to safely store data accessible to the numerous machines on my home lan. So now I pose to Slashdot readers- what are your recommendations? I'm looking for something with RAID and SMB sharing. At least a quarter TB, probably a half, but with some room to grow. What have you used? What works? What fails?

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  1. The Poor Man's RAID Array by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Informative

    As CmdrTaco, I'm sure you have money coming out of your ears that you've harvested from the pseudo-religion that is Slashdot.

    But for those of you with fewer fiscal resources, I will tell you the stories of my friend and me, a.k.a. The Master Rebaters.

    My story is a simple one. I love music. I have over 1,000 CDs and have spent a lot of time meticulously ripping them with my friend CDex. So, I have some 350-400GB of data that I would like to archive. There are a multitude of possibilities but, since I'm short on cash, I opted for a simple $13 RAID 1 controller ... I know, I know, I'm going to catch hell for using such a crappy generic product. And I know many people who will tell you that VIA is crap when it comes to RAID controllers. Maybe you're one of them. If you are, I hear that the brand Promise provides excellent RAID controllers, you'll just pay a whole lot more for them. A couple of these babies in RAID 1 and you're set.

    My friend, however, opted for a huge and expensive RAID 6 array controller made by Promise. Then he waited and waited until there was a 250 GB Maxtor rebate at CompUSA or Outpost and went in and bought five with cash. Then he filled out the rebates for relatives and played the waiting game. Huge initial investment but he received a lot of money back slowly. Result, a 1.1 ~ 1.2 TB RAID array. He got a lot more storage and more efficient use of the disks since a RAID 6 with striping allows for drives to be rebuilt in the array.

    What he wasn't planning on was the logistics of what he would have to do to his Antec case as a result of all these drives. Fans. Airflow. Heat. These all became huge issues for him--especially in the summer. I'm not sure what your situation is with a case but I made no alterations to my case.

    Now, there's a lot of things I skipped over that you can take into consideration, like SATA or ATA? 7,200 RPM or 10,000 RPM? 8MB or 16MB buffer? Striping size? etc. Honestly, those issues aren't worth my time to mess with. Sure sure, I'm losing precious ms seek/read time on my disks but I'm not that motivated.

    In the end, if you're only looking for half a TB, do what I did. Those 500 GB drives will only get cheaper and if one blows, just pop another in. And if you really need that room to grow, grab the nice RAID controller that supports RAID 0-6 and just use two 500GBs leaving the other three slots open for the future when you might buy them and RAID 6 it.

    What fails? The old IBM Deathstars. Beware!

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    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:The Poor Man's RAID Array by shawb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention that the cheapest floppy drive I found on quick newegg and froogle searches was $5.00 (And that's not even USB, but let's go with it.) Let's just assume that with that sort of volume you can pick them up for $1.00 a unit. That's still $150,000 just for the drives, and you still have to worry about cables, floppy media, hubs and controllers (I believe one USB root hub can only control 127 root devices, uncluding hubs, so let's say about 100 floppy drives and 30 hubs per controller, means 1,500 USB controllers plus 45,000 hubs (powered of cours). This means you have to run power to every floppy drive, or at the very least to every hub, so you have quite possibly several miles of cable to deal with, and some way to generate all this electrical power (Hint: your standard home fusebox probably won't handle it. assume half an amp per device at 12 volts, that's 6 watts, that's almost a megawatt of power assuming good efficiency, so expect no less than about 1000 amps in your standard household 120v current just to power the drives.) and then dissipate the extra heat. And a place to put a square of 400X400 floppies, plus all the auxillary equipment won't be free.

      So, we're easilly talking on the order of... a million dollars in equipment, labor and other expenses. Oh, and this is just talking about RAID 0. If any of those 150,000 floppies fail the whole array fails. Even with massive redundancy you will still need at least a full time employee going around swapping in floppies when one fails. Not to mention you'd need to multiply all the original costs by the amount of redundancy, plus overhead (we're talking having to hire managers and middle managers to coordinate the whole process.)

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      I'll never make that mistake again, reading the experts' opinions. - Feynman
  2. Wow! Research! by Foxxz · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are dozens of products out there to do this. Linksys alone makes several. You obviously didn't search slashdot, google, etc. The fact this article got accepted... Words fail me.

    -Foxxz

    1. Re:Wow! Research! by xlr8ed · · Score: 5, Funny

      "The fact this article got accepted... Words fail me."

      I think he has a bit of pull with one of the Editor's...

    2. Re:Wow! Research! by justasecond · · Score: 5, Funny

      He has a bit of pull with one of the Editor's what?

  3. RAID != backup by undeadly · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It happened again- a machine on my home network died. Taking with it tons of data. It's mostly backed up. No huge loss. But I finally think it's time to get some sort of network raid disk. A unified place to safely store data accessible to the numerous machines on my home lan.

    RAID could help with downtime, but is not a substitute for backup, really. Tape backup is still very expensive (high inital cost), and DVD's are limited in both quality and storage capacity. Well, I use both, but then my storage needs are slight since I burn my most important data to a DVD-RAM disc every night.

    What OpenBSD thinks about RAID:

    RAID (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks) gives an opportunity to use multiple drives to give better performance, capacity and/or redundancy than one can get out of a single drive alone. While a full discussion of the benefits and risks of RAID are outside the scope of this article, there are a couple points that are important to make here:

    * RAID has nothing to do with backup.
    * By itself, RAID will not eliminate down-time.

    If this is new information to you, this is not a good starting point for your exploration of RAID.
  4. Linksys NSLU2 by LodCrappo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This might not be perfect for the original poster's needs, but it works great for mine which are somewhat similar. Basically the linksys NSLU2 is a little box with an ethernet port and two usb 2.0 ports. it runs a variety of linuxes, mine runs Debian. You can learn about the open source side of the device here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/

    You can hook up several hard drives (or other usb toys) via a usb hub. Performance is not great, but totally fine for storage of music and movies if you only have a few users on your network. It supports samba, ftp, nfs, http, probably any other way you'd like to access the files. You could do software raid or some other type of mirroring/backup if you'd like.

    The main reasons I really like this thing for an at home server:

    • Silent operation, no fans in the nslu2 and you can get fanless enclosures for the HDs
    • Takes very little space away from your home office
    • Very small power draw
    • Easy to add/remove drives without any reboots
    • Can power off drives that aren't used frequently, then turn them on when needed

    I was amazed at how quiet my office became after replacing my PC file server with this guy and PC firewall with a wrt54g. I could actually hear the gf talking again, which is the only downside so far.

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    -Lod
  5. Dead Simple/Cheap ($80 + 2 ext enclosures & HD by StCredZero · · Score: 5, Informative

    LinkSys NSLU2. Plugs into your home network. (10/100) Then you get yourself 2 IDE drives and 2 USB 2.0 enclosures then plug them in. Then you can set it to periodically back-up one drive to the other. Sure, it's not as bullet-proof as RAID5. But it's dead simple, cheap, and it just works. Failure recovery is dead simple. Also, the system is has some of the same flexibility as the Buffalo Teraserver. (Plug in your friend's USB 2.0 drive when he comes over.)

    Also, with this scheme, you can delete a file and change your mind. (Recover from the back-up before the weekly copy job.)

    And, if this is too simple for your geek quotient, it's Linux-based and hackable!

  6. He already has that by Jeff+Molby · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have mod points, but I feel it's more important to just correct you. He already has everything backed up and the LVM idea doesn't do anything to help his situation.

    He does care about downtime. Downtime = time spent restoring. With a RAID level > 0, all he has to do is replace a drive and tell the raid to rebuild. He's done in 5 minutes. It would take that long just to queue up a restore job for the tape.