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Pluto Probe Launches

Artem S. Tashkinov writes "The US space agency, Nasa, has successfully launched its New Horizons mission to Pluto. The $700m probe will gather information on Pluto and its moons before - it is hoped - pressing on to explore other objects in the outer Solar System. Pluto is the only remaining planet that has never been visited by a spacecraft."

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  1. Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    In 2015 we should get some pretty interesting data back.

    1. Re:Cool by Yahweh+Doesn't+Exist · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am very disappointed with our President for allowing this project (and many others) to be funded. Wasting billions of tax-payers' dollars on atheist scientists' toys that could be spent on community development is an affront to the faith-based policy agenda that has seen our nation move from strength to strength in these difficult times. If we do not stand up to the constant attacks by left-wing scientists with their heretic world-views our very status as a Christian nation is in real threat. I for one am tired of being persecuted for my beliefs.

    2. Re:Cool by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Keep poking fun at the 'idiot Christians.' That way, we can put a useful political rift between everything scientific and Christian.

      Why would poking fun at the idiot christians cause a rift between science and everything christian? Unless of course you're saying that all christians are idiot christians? I'm not a christian, so I wouldn't know... I presume you are a christian, so I'll have to take your word for it.

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  2. The website that changed policy by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Around the year 2000 there was a website that was setup by a teenager who wanted to see NASA send a space probe to Pluto. The website was www.plutomission.com, and it helped start an online petition that gained well over 50,000 signatures. It also started a huge upsurge of public support for a Pluto mission, and in the end helped persuade NASA into making a real mission out of it. Amazing what a simple website can do.

    1. Re:The website that changed policy by ichandarin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Another big source of publicity was the planetary society, http://planetary.org./ They deserve a lot of the credit for getting this mission finished, finally. Their web site on the New Horizons mission also has some great info, at http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/new_horizo ns/

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    2. Re:The website that changed policy by gizmonic · · Score: 4, Funny

      And porn. Don't forget the porn.

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    3. Re:The website that changed policy by Zen+Punk · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm sorry, that's not the way it happened. NASA polls scientists for mission suggestions, not random websites. A mission of this magnitude has to be planned and prepared for, and that takes years. As in more than 6. In fact, this mission has been planned and laid out within NASA for a long time. The reason it took this long to launch is because each new congressional funding bill would slash the mission and then reinstate it the next time around. Signatures don't fund space missions. Congress does.

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  3. Photo by Eightyford · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's a closeup of the latest photo of pluto taken by Hubble.

  4. Fastest too.. by kurth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From this CNN article, and my buddy Pete at JHAPL, "The New Horizons spacecraft will be the fastest ever launched, more than 10 times faster than a speeding bullet.". That is faster then superman.

    1. Re:Fastest too.. by Quadraginta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, to be fair, Apollo had to slow down so it could stop at the Moon...

  5. Yes!!! by lorelorn · · Score: 5, Informative
    With all the delays, I was getting worried that the mission would be delayed.

    For those not aware, had it been delayed past early Feb, the mission would have taken 4 years longer to reach Pluto, due to missing Jupiter for a gravitational 'slingshot' assist.

    Roll on 2015. The best images we have of Pluto now are fuzzy Hubble pics, and I can't wait for this to change.

  6. Don't suppose the No Nukes freaks will apologize by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any comment from the "OMG! Plutonium powered space probes are evil!" people that were hanging little origami birds on a fence outside the launch site? They seemed certain that launching this craft was going to be a disaster. Damn! Now they're going to have to wait for the next one, since neither Cassini nor this new launch have obliged them by crashing into an old growth redwood grove or a daycare center.

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  7. Re:This happened around 2 PM EST by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How is it news 9 hours later?

    Actually, I LIKE the 9-hour window. That's exactly how long this thing has taken to pass the moon. That's really, really fast.

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  8. Re:Don't suppose the No Nukes freaks will apologiz by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gotta agree with you there. I can't stand people that are ignorant enough to protest anything with the word "nuclear" attached to it. Blind ignorance is all that is. They don't even have the most basic understanding of what they are protetsting. They're simply doing it because some hippy teacher during their education told them that they should.

    Lemmings.

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  9. New data on Pioneer anomaly? by Quadraginta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's to New Horizons, indeed!

    [Drains glass, turns over on top of bar...]

    One wonders if NH might contribute some data to finally solve the Pioneer anomaly.

  10. Re:This happened around 2 PM EST by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Funny

    having dated a Wiccan years ago.

    Whew. Talk about your eccentric orbits! Glad to have you back.

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  11. Kinda Slow by borisborf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You have to wonder why, with such a long journey, they didn't try out an ion engine. Sure, it would have cost more, but it would have been able to get there a lot faster. The ion engine has a much higher specific impulse than conventional rockets but are only effective over long range where the engines can be fired continuously. What longer range than Pluto? Plus, include a larger Plutonium core and run several of these.

    Sure, it is the fastest probe to escape from the earth, but why not strap on an extra stage and get that baby really cookin!

    1. Re:Kinda Slow by Unholy_Kingfish · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This mission has been planned for a long time. Lots of R&D. On and off funding. The building of this probe started the better part of a decade ago. When you build space fairing vehicles you build them on CURRENT tech, not what might be around in a few years. Ion engines are new technology in its infancy that wouldn't have been available to the designers then.

      Not to mention this is a flyby mission, not an orbiting mission like Cassini or the MESSENGER mission. You do not want to zoom by and get less data.

      These space probes are in for the long haul, not just a quicky.

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  12. Most distant human object... by 00Sovereign · · Score: 5, Informative

    After hearing how this is a flyby mission and the top speed of this spacecraft, I wondered about the current speed champ, Voyager I. According to some of my back of the envelope calculations based upon New Horizons' estimated top speed after a Jupiter assist and the current position and speed of Voyager I, in 26 years New Horizons will surpass Voyager I as the most distant human made object.

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  13. Re:Question for the white house by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just because you're ignorant of major space exploration events doesn't mean the rest of the world is. Take an occasional read of something like The Space Review. Although there's much debate about the planned manned space architecture there's still plenty going on.

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  14. Obligatory "Remember Firefly" post by dada21 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The outer planet?

    Reavers!!!

  15. 10 years later... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
  16. Re:Question for the white house by susano_otter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In fact, NASA recently finalized the specifications and issued contracts (to Boeing, among others) for the next generation of orbital work vehicles. NASA has stated explicitly that these vehicles will be the testbeds and prototypes for the Lunar and Martian manned mission programs planned over the next ten years or so.

    So not only is everything proceeding as planned, but actual physical artifacts are being built at this very moment in direct support of the Mars program.

    Some of us think this is very cool, really neat, etc.

    Apparently, others prefer ignorance, if it makes it easier to make cheap political shots.

    This is exciting science-type stuff! Give the political asshattery a rest, why don't you?

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  17. Re:Don't suppose the No Nukes freaks will apologiz by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 5, Informative

    The RTGs in question here are not just Plutonium slugs.

    Remember there have been accidents with them in the past.

    During the three mission accidents that did occur, the RTGs performed as predicted. The Transit 5-BN-3 mission was aborted because of launch vehicle failure. The RTG burned up on reentry as designed with the plutonium dispersed in the upper atmosphere. The RTG design was changed shortly after that to accommodate intact reentry. The next accident was with the Nimbus-B-1 that was aborted shortly after launch by a range safety destruct. The RTG was recovered, with no release of plutonium, and the heat sources were reused in later missions

    The failure of the Apollo 13 mission meant that the Lunar Module reentered the atmosphere carrying an RTG and burnt up over Fiji. The RTG itself survived reentry of the Earth's atmosphere intact, plunging into the Tonga trench in the Pacific Ocean. The US Department of Energy has conducted seawater tests and determined that the graphite casing, which was designed to withstand reentry, is stable and no release of plutonium will occur. Subsequent investigations have found no increase in the natural background radiation in the area.

    In order to minimise the risk of the radioactive material being released, the fuel is stored in individual modular units with their own heat shielding. They are surrounded by a layer of iridium metal and encased in high-strength graphite blocks. These two materials are corrosion- and heat-resistant. Surrouding the graphic blocks is an aeroshell, designed to protect the entire assembly against the heat of reentering the earth's atmosphere. The plutonium fuel is also stored in a ceramic form that is heat-resistant, minimising the risk of vaporization and aerosolization. The ceramic is also highly insoluble.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTG
    http://www.ne.doe.gov/space/space-desc.html
    http://www.nuclearspace.com/facts_about_rtg.htm

    http://www.bellona.no/en/international/russia/navy /northern_fleet/incidents/31772.html
    Nice information about RTG powered lighthouses

  18. oy, big problems here by Quadraginta · · Score: 4, Informative

    To enter orbit around a planet you need to be going slowly when you get there, at no more than the orbital speed for the planet. New Horizons will be going at 11 km/s when it flashes by Pluto, snapping pictures like mad, whereas the orbital velocity for Pluto is just over 3 km/s. NH is moving at least 3 times too fast to go into orbit.

    If you wanted to go into orbit, you'd have two choices. The first, and most economical, is to launch the spacecraft on an elliptical trajectory that just barely reaches out to Pluto. That gets the spacecraft there with the lowest possible speed relative to Pluto. You still have some braking to do, but it's the least possible. Problem is, the length of such a trajectory is about half the period of Pluto's orbit, i.e. 125 years. Ugh.

    If you speed things up by taking a faster trajectory, then you end up with much more braking to do. Then the problem becomes: how do you lose all that speed? If the planet had an atmosphere, and you have good heat shielding, you can do a little aerobraking, which is what's done with Mars. But with an airless world you're stuck with bringing along enough fuel to do almost as much braking as you did accelerating from Earth orbit. So far, that has been very difficult without a very large spacecraft. One plausible hope for improvement is to bring along a real nuclear reactor (instead of just an RTG) which can provide lots of electric power, and then use a high-efficiency ion drive to slow yourself down.