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UCLA Students Urged to Expose 'Radical' Professors

rts008 writes to tell us Reuters is reporting that a conservative alumni group is working hard to expose 'radical professors'. The group is a creation of 2003 UCLA graduate, Andrew Jones, who stated that he runs the organization on his own with $22,000 in private donations. From the article: "Jones told Reuters he is out to 'restore an atmosphere of respectful political discourse on campus' and says his efforts are aimed at academics who proselytize students from either side of the ideological spectrum, conservative or liberal. 'We are concerned solely with indoctrination, one-sided presentation of ideological controversies and unprofessional classroom behavior,' Jones said on his Web site." The tactics used by Jones and his group are raising quite a few questions, however, offering to pay students for recordings or teaching materials that could provide 'evidence' against professors in question.

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  1. Re:Good. by blair1q · · Score: 4, Informative

    One student was "discriminated" against by one academic institution which laid out the rules he flouted before he flouted them.

    You'd think a "conservative" would follow the rules.

  2. Nonsense! (I'm sorry, is that belittling?) by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 5, Informative
    I'm a "left-wing" professor and I don't grade anyone down for disagreeing with me. Shitty arguments for positions I agree with are still shitty arguments, and they receive the grade they deserve.

    If I had no integrity and chose to reward people for agreeing with me and punish those who didn't, there are institutional procedures and protocols set up by which students could appeal their grades. If this happened often, my grading practices would be placed under close scrutiny by the administration. I wouldn't last very long. Harrassment and belittlement are indeed more difficult to prove for the aggrieved student, but there are still ways.

    What groups like the one mentioned in this article have thus far failed to do is to provide any credible evidence of such malfeasance. What they do instead is to present evidence of professors' political leanings on the basis of those professors' public statements and activities. Unfortunately, people like you, Anonymous Coward (and you do live up to your name here), take that as evidence that a conservative can't get a fair shake. All it actually proves is that profs have opinions, which I believe they are still allowed to do here in the U.S.

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  3. Re:Hey, the right to speek freely... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 4, Informative
    You don't need to go elsewhere. Just start supporting vouchers.

    Good point. Unfortunately, vouchers seem to have stalled, thanks to the teachers union. Woohoo. Shame I can't dismantle the teachers' union on my own.

    As for the "blacklist", it's a free country, and they can do what they want.

    Very true. But you're forgetting the context in which this is taking place. This stunt is about as transparent as it gets. See the link posted by Doormat in this thread.

    It's no surprise the profs are playing the "poor victim" card - why can't they just stand up and being proud of their beliefs?

    If you'd read the statements of the professors involved instead of just assuming what they're saying, you might be surprised to find out that that's exactly the stance they're displaying. Most of them know that they're not exactly mainstream, and are quite proud of it.

    Just discarding the idea that students are discriminated against because of their political views (which have nothing to do with class) is naive, and reeks of some bias on your side.

    You're right, I have not offered any evidence that people are not being discriminated against based on their political beliefs. That's because no one has yet offered any evidence other than "My grades are too low! Bias! Waah!" in support of the discrimination. Do you also expect me to prove the non-existence of white crows before continuing this discussion?

    As long as they're fair, and include discrimination from all sides, not just the left, I think it's a good idea.

    You seem to not have read the article: "The Web site of the Bruin Alumni Association also includes a "Dirty Thirty" list of professors considered by the group to be the most extreme left-wing members of the UCLA faculty, as well as profiles on their political activities and writings."
    There is no similar "Dirty Thirty" list for extreme right-wing professors.

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