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Fast Track to Fine Wine?

wombatmobile writes "Hiroshi Tanaka, president of Innovative Design and Technology, claims to have perfected a machine that can transform a bottle of just-fermented Beaujolais Nouveau into a fine, mellow wine in seconds. From the article: 'The road, however, won't be an easy one: the company has brought the machine around to Japanese wine producers, restaurants and even sake rice wine and "shochu" sweet potato spirit distillers, but so far only a small shochu maker in southern Japan has agreed to get involved.'

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  1. Smells like the same old snake oil... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Informative

    This seems to be a variation on the theme of enhancing wine tate through the use of magnetic fields, as exemplified by such products as The Wine Clip, Wine Cellar Express, The Perfect Sommelier, and others.

    Being, as I am, an aficionado of cheap wine, this has been a subject of interest for me. Unfortunately, it seems that every 'study' done on the subject that bears out the magnet treatment theory has not been done in a properly rigorous scientific fashion, while any study done in such a fashion fails to find any correlation between treatment by magnetic field and improvement of taste.

    Speaking of properly rigorous scientific studies (or lack therof), from TFA:
    To the untrained palate, a bottle of Beaujolais Nouveau 2005 strained through the machine became a more full-bodied, complex wine. Similar treatment to a Sauvignon Blanc 2004 resulted in a drier aftertaste.
    No mention of any scientific-ish study to determine objectively whether or not the machine has any positive effects. I fear this may just be the same old snake oil all over again.

    Until I see the results of a few double-blind studies on the effects of this device, I'm suspending judgement.
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    1. Re:Smells like the same old snake oil... by seifried · · Score: 4, Informative

      John Cleese did a short documentary called "Wine for the confused." Towards the end of it he buys 5 bottles of wine ranging in price from $5 US to several hundred. He puts them in brown paper bags with laters ([A-E])and has 20 odd people try them all (some movie star friends/etc, generally people who supposedly drink a lot of expensive wine). He then asks "which wine did you think was the most expensive one" to which the various people say A, B, D, E, John Cleese then says "I'm not hearing a lot of "C." Turns out that no-one thought the most expensive wine was the best one, in fact several thought the $5 bottle was the best. The moral of the story: wine, like food and coloirs is a matter of individual taste and price often has little bearing on what we truly enjoy. Personally I can't stand Beaujolais, I've tried a few and found every single one utterly repulsive.

      Wine for the Confused (2004) (TV)

    2. Re:Smells like the same old snake oil... by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Informative
      One of my old favorites for "Smooth and Mellow" used to be the Beringer reserve but it was pricey (For me) at around $60 a bottle. Pretty much every wine I tried while visiting Romania tasted as good or better to me and ran me in the neighborhood of $3 a bottle. You can't find the Beringer reserve as easily anymore and lately I've been preferring sake as I was getting tired of purple teeth. Now my favorite bottle of sake is from Horin and runs me $27 a bottle at a local liquor store, though a couple of the sushi restaurants around here charge 2 to 3 times as much for it. Horin's great cold and if I'm introducing a sake newbie to sake, it's the stuff I use.

      In general I'd suggest ignoring the wine snobs and trying a few wines on your own, if you're in to that sort of thing. A good wine is one you like. Just be sure to keep notes so you'll remember which ones you like 3 months later when you're shopping for another bottle. Also, since taste is subjective, I find it worthwhile to go back every so often and try some wine you didn't like so much. Sometimes your perspective will have shifted in the intervening time and you'll like it the second time around. Of course, I think the last glass of wine out of the bottle is always much better than the first one if you drink it all at once...

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  2. Sake is Not Wine by good+soldier+svejk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sake is not wine. It is made from grain and brewed. By law and common sense that makes it beer in the US.

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  3. Beaujolais Nouveau is SUPPOSED to be drank fresh by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 5, Informative

    Beaujolais Nouveau is SUPPOSED to be drank right after a short fermentation process. It tastes like CRAP if it's allowed to age more than 6 months.

    In france they have festivals mid-november, when the year's Beaujolais Nouveau's are officially allowed to be drank.

  4. Re:no more Barrels by clifyt · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Recently, in England, they cut down a 340 yr old oak tree to make wine barrels."

    Actually -- they cut down the 340 year old tree because it was infested and needed to be destroyed before it infested other 300 year old trees around it.

    The fact that the tree was well known and thus to be used for wine making is secondary. I read this the other day and treehuggers were getting all bent out of shape about it until someone picked up the full story.

    But yeah, wine in a barrel tastes 'more complex'. Better? I don't know...I don't care. But the wine snobs I know can actually tell you the type of barrel it was stored in by the characteristics of the wine (apparently its not hard to figure out if you studied the subject).

  5. Bullshit by swordgeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hmm.

    Tannins can be polymerised, compounds can be oxidised, but a large part of what makes a good wine good is what it absorbs from and loses to the barrel. Furthermore, oxidatisation doesn't occur evenly through a wine (tends to be more surface area effect than all the way through) which means that different parts of the wine in the barrel are different, and blending them adds complexity.

    This (a) can't work well, and (b) doesn't work. I've got some audiophile toys which I could write /. articles about too, but that doesn't make them effective.

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