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MacWorld MacBook Only a Prototype?

mahju writes "Hard Mac is reporting that Apple's, unoffical, response in Paris to the the lack of information on battery life, is that the MacBook Pro that were demoed at Mac World SF are only prototypes and the final versions are still under development. "

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  1. Explains alot by mgv · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This would also explain why:

    1. Only the 15 inch model was released (not the 12 or 17 inch version)
    2. You can still buy the entire range of G4 laptops
    3. The release date was February whilst the iMac was immediately available.

    Makes sense - I think apple wanted to make a splash at MacWorld and the laptop wasn't quite ready yet.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the entire MacBook range actually ships simultaneously, even if they are announced separately.

    Of course, they were announcing six months ahead of schedule, so they aren't really that far behind. And at least my shiny new (1 year old) power book doesn't quite feel outdated just yet ...

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  2. Re:I think the lack of high-speed firewire is news by xusr · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I would agree; the permanent absence of FW800 is news (even though that missed the headline). I just bought a triple-interface HD in hopes that my next 12" Power(Mac?)Book would sport FW800. The studio I work at is outfitted with FW800, and there is a very significant real-world difference between it and the older spec.

    sigh.

  3. Re:Wow by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I think the important aspect of the story is that all Apple has are prototypes with all that entails. You'd expect, for example, one month before they're due to ship, Apple would know enough about the final design to give us some idea of battery life on the things. The serious news about this is that these are prototypes as opposed to pre-production models. It wouldn't be news if they were simply pre-production. It is news that they're not even that.

    There's also other interesting information in the article, namely that it looks like they're very much tied to Intel's decisions regarding supportable technologies. Firewire 800, for example, is missing not because it's deemed unnecessary, but because Intel doesn't want to support it. Conversely, 802.11a is supported over Apple's historic objections, so it goes both ways. Hopefully this will mean better support for 802.11a in general in the near future. But it does appear that Apple is less in control of its destiny than it's been in the past, and may well lose its role of first-move innovator that it was over, say, optical media, Firewire, USB, 802.11, and other technologies.

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  4. Story Seems Dubious To Me... by GaryPatterson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not a manufacturing expert, but I would think that taking a machine from prototype to production would be more than a month's work. If they're still in development, then I would expect the shipping models to be *much* later than a month late.

    The assembly line has to be geared up before any production can take place. How long does that take after the design is finalised?

    I can't see how a model could still be in development and yet ship as a completed unit in a month.

  5. Re:Wow by catwh0re · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Factually Apple can not be showing a "prototype" and have a world wide availability in less than a month later. Yes they were samples from the factory(not prototypes which look far worse), but the truth about battery life is simply this: It's a new type of battery (as used in the iPod) so they actually don't have any proper idea about the life of it. Remember apple have had a lot of issues with consumers demanding refunds/exchange because batteries didn't live as long as expected. At this stage they know one thing: it should be about the same. Whether or not it's less or more will take a lot of consumer review.

  6. Otellini, Grove, and Jobs by jmichaelg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There was a video floating around where Jobs is showing the Macbook to Andy Grove and Paul Otellini. They're at the Apple booth in Macworld. In that video, Jobs doesn't hem and haw when Grove asks "how long does the battery last?" Jobs says "about the same" which I assume he means "about the same as the G4."

    An irony about the video is Otellini looks ghastly ill while Jobs and Grove, who have both survived cancer, look the picture of health. Perhaps it was the lighting or perhaps Otellini needs to hit the gym.

  7. Re: The problem with FW800 by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FireWire 800 is backwards compatible electronically with FireWire 400, but everyone who sells adaptors charges an insane amount for them (a FW800->400 cable cost about three times as much as a three-port FW800 card last time I looked). I wouldn't say there is 'no demand'. I have a couple of LaCie disks that are chained together with FW800. They connect to my PowerBook via a single FW800 cable, and it is noticeably faster than using FW400 (which they support, but only by limiting me to a single disk, since they only have one FW400 port). If they had included a FW800->400 convertor for each FW800 port though, I agree that would have been better.

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  8. Re:Wow by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Um, the units at Macworld essentially represent the final shipping product. They will look, act, and perform the same in all ways that matter. They may not have their final agency approvals and that sort of thing, but the specs, speeds, parts, case, appearance, screen, and so on, all represent the shipping units.

    2. Apple - and other vendors - have preannounced products and shown pre-production units before they have shipped many, many, many times in the past. This is NOT new.

    3. What if Apple had preannounced the MacBook Pro the same exact way they did, and still said "shipping in mid-February", and then didn't show anything at all at Macworld, even though the product is essentially done? How would that be better?

    I'd love an explanation as to how this is anything new, much less "irresponsible".

  9. 128K MacInTalk... by green+pizza · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The original Jobs Mac demo didn't use MacInTalk, it actually used a very early Mac port of Mark Barton's Software Automatic Mouth. SAM ran fine on 64K Apple II systems, and my guess is the Mac version worked ok with 128K. The reason the original Mac demo took up so much RAM is because of its fancy graphics running from RAM. Not too shabby for being written in a few days and they probably could have made it work on a 128K Mac by having it load each segment of the demo graphics from disk as needed.

    Speak takes up 36 KB of disk space and can talk quite well on a 128K Mac. Give it a whirl.

    Browsing the usenet, I see several comments from Mac 128K users that have played with MacInTalk, so it seems to work with that limited RAM. Perhaps the final released version of MacInTalk was a further optimized version of the SAM port?

  10. Were the MacBooks really intended for the Expo ? by AlanAudio · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There have been many suggestions that Steve's keynote at the Expo wasn't the one that he really intended to give as other things had to be withdrawn at the last moment.

    So instead of a new Mac mini, video download service and new iPod shuffle, were the gaps left in the keynote filled with a very leisurely stroll through iLife 06 and a preview of the forthcoming MacBook ?

    The MacBook certainly comes across as being a product that wasn't originally intended to be announced at that time.

  11. Re:I think the lack of high-speed firewire is news by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would agree; the permanent absence of FW800 is news (even though that missed the headline). I just bought a triple-interface HD in hopes that my next 12" Power(Mac?)Book would sport FW800. The studio I work at is outfitted with FW800, and there is a very significant real-world difference between it and the older spec.

    This market is likely to be taken over by external SATA, or eSATA. You can read about it here. With no overhead in converting to SATA and a much higher cap to begin with, it is likely to be the solution for external high-performance storage. Firewire is still limited by the fact that both current DV and newer HDV cameras don't need FW800 for live playback. On the low end, USB is the standard for anything for keyboard, mice and everything else (with some competition from the PS/2 port). In short, FW800 is a technology looking for a market and the market just isn't there.

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