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An Accurate ID3 Tag Database?

Andy Le Couteur Bisson asks: "Can anyone suggest an ID3 tag database that doesn't label everything from Gabber to Ambient as Electronica & Dance, or worse? I am currently ripping more of my CD collection and it is annoying to have to review and edit almost all of the tags after every session. The odd error or difference of opinion is understandable, but I struggle to comprehend the logic that categorizes The Liberators and Luke Slater as R&B (for the uninitiated they are Techno). I guess I'm looking for a more UK centric database but Googling hasn't helped much, thus far."

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  1. The best source of info is... YOU! by GWSuperfan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone's musical tastes are different, and this extends to how we classify the music we listen to. Would you classify US3 as Jazz? Acid Jazz? some variation of Rap? It depends on how YOU percieve it. No online databse is gonna be perfect. Just suck it up and label everything how you think it should be labelled as you are ripping your CDs. Even then you will have to deal with crossover bands that blend elements of different musical styles. I've alost completely done away with this kind of classification for some of my music, as once my collection gained any depth, classifying some songs/artists/albums became next to impossible.

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  2. Re:Limited Suggestion by snarlydwarf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why on earth would you want to use id3v1? id3v1 has the goofy single-byte genres. id3v2 supports strings of arbitrary length. Some software (like Slimserver) lets you have multiple genres per track, using the delimiter of choice.

    The real catch is defining your genre set, but that gets very tricky to do in a way that you'll be satisfied with.

  3. Genre is overrated by dal20402 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Genre, in my (very large) collection, only serves one function: to distinguish "classical" (which in fact encompasses probably 20 genres) from "nonclassical" (even more). Even then it fails with a few borderline cases (think Edgar Meyer/Bela Fleck collaboration). Genre is too imprecise a tool to use for searching, so why bother?

    Don't bother with ID3 databases, either. Even if one were "accurate," it would not be right for most individual listeners. Here's a small list of the problems I encounter when trying to use tags pulled from a database, even when there are no obvious typos or fuckups...

    For non-classical music:
    - Genres are wacked (duh)
    - Both artist and album names often differ from what the album cover says: shortened or on the other hand made "more informative"
    - Year is wrong. I don't give a fuck when the album (or even worse, the greatest hits collection) was first sold. I care when the song was put in its final form (if I can find out)
    - Song titles may be shortened, and almost always have gratuitous Caps At The Start Of Each Word whether or not the artist put them there
    - Due to changes in the database over the years fields may be switched or missing

    For classical music and opera the situation is far worse. I have my own tagging system refined during years of keeping digital music and figuring out how best to shoehorn orchestra/chorus/conductor/soloist(s)/ensembles/mo vement titles/opus numbers/acts/scenes into "Artist," "Song," "Album" and "Grouping" fields. I would hazard the guess that for any serious classical music listener there is no point in a database -- different information is important to all of us and we will all perform the field-consolidation shuffle differently. We can whine about the need for entirely new tagging systems but we are enough of a minority that no one listens, so in the meantime, we have to Optimize Very Highly.

    In short, just type the damn information in yourself if you want it to be accurate. There is no other way.