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Texas Politician Wants Violent Games Tax

Gamepolitics reports that a candidate for the Governor of Texas would pass a violent games tax if elected. From the article: "The Amarillo Globe News is reporting that Republican gubernatorial candidate Star Locke wants to scrap Texas' current property tax system. Instead, Locke would institute new taxes on abortion providers, soft drinks, and violent video games to fund the state's government. Locke, a rancher and builder from Corpus Christi, favors a 50% tax on violent games, as well as a $10,000 tax per abortion and a 10% levy on sweetened soft drinks."

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  1. So let me get this straight....... by wckdjugallo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If he was elected he would get rid of a tax he has to pay. And replace it with taxes he won't pay since they would be taxing services he obviously doesn't use? How is that fair?

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    1. Re:So let me get this straight....... by RailGunner · · Score: 3, Informative
      Star Locke doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of winning the Texas Governor position. It's going to be between the incumbent, Rick Perry, and another Republican challenger, Carole Keeton Strayhorn.

      Star Locke, Kinky Friedman, and a few others, are just dry-roasted nuts that aren't worth paying much attention too.

    2. Re:So let me get this straight....... by beders · · Score: 3, Funny

      CK Strayhorn
      Star Locke
      Kinky Friedman
      Rick Perry

      Rick Perry needs to change his name, it's just not good enough

  2. Texas is the new Utopia by Godeke · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Good grief, I'm as big of a video game fan as anyone, but this isn't about video games but a scary way of thinking.

    "I take the position that the Founding Fathers took: that the power to tax is the power to destroy. So our concept is that we need to tax things we don't want and you want to not tax things that you want to encourage.

    Ah, there is the epitome of sustainable government taxation: tax things you want to destroy. Sometimes I wonder what powers these politicians... it sure isn't brains. See, if you succeed in destroying the taxed items, then you have no tax base. So destruction of the taxed items clearly can't be the goal in such a tax proposal: it would deny the government the monies it needs.

    So if your goal isn't to destroy the "sin taxed" items (since under his model you only tax things you don't want) then the reality is that you want to encourage or sustain the sin taxed items to help raise funds. Ah, isn't that a great idea? Get elected by claiming that you will remove taxes from things ordinary good folk want, such as property, and shift the burden to evil gamers, loose women and sugar fiends. (Wow, has Texas really become so utopian that those were the worst they could find? My trip to the Dallas BoardGameGeek convention sure didn't make it seem that way.)

    One wonders if the people are smart enough to realize that fully funding your government via sin taxes turns you into something similar to Las Vegas, where sin is fully encouraged as long as the taxes are collected. Of course, the prior story on politicians ignoring the facts probably explains this all away anyway.
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    1. Re:Texas is the new Utopia by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, there is the epitome of sustainable government taxation: tax things you want to destroy.

      ...Like "personal income" and "sales"?


      Gotta agree, these guys certainly don't think very much about the consequences of the laws they create.


      But then, I have increasingly grown of the opinion that ALL involuntary taxation needs to end, immediately. Not that I expect that to happen, nor will I stop paying my yearly extortion money to the government, but culturally, we NEED to lose the mentality best summed up in the "death and taxes" cliche. "We" don't need to pay taxes. "They" need our money to use it on police and militaries so they can enforce all the other BS laws that no sane human would ever consider "good".


      I'll gladly pay for roads, for schools, for libraries, for social programs that benefit everyone (like truly universal healthcare, not of this half-assed system we have now). But when the single biggest chunk of my income goes, involuntarily, to fighting a new holy war, I have a problem with that. And for anyone who considers this rant to have gone off-topic, consider - How would you categorize the Christian Right's campaign against all things fun, free, or Islamic?

  3. Remember by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 3, Funny

    The colonies declared war on England because they taxed a beverage. And it wasn't even coffee.

  4. bullets by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What's the current tax per bullet and what's his recommended one?

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  5. What about taxing the things we can't live without by Durrill · · Score: 3, Funny

    If he were to introduce a +1% levy on ammunition, i'm sure the state would have a hundred billion surplus by the end of the year.

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  6. Well, given that he cites the Founding Fathers... by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... and given that he thinks it's a good idea to tax nonintoxicating beverages, I'd suggest he put a largish tax on tea.

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  7. Greater Effects by sc0ttyb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder if this guy realizes just how many game development houses are currently based in Texas. Taxing violent games into oblivion would most likely force a lot of these developers to relocate, thus losing directly and indirectly associated jobs, future investment, and well, it's just a dick thing to do.

    I bet this'll go over really, really well. Lmaonade.

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  8. A $10,000 tax on abortions and you focus on games? by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about fact that this suggestion effectively make abortion unavailable to the poor in the state of Texas?

    This proposal is a raft of bullshit intended to get votes from Christian conservatives and frightened, reactionary idiots. And no doubt, one significant purpose of this proposal is a backdoor attempt to make abortion unavailable de facto to one segment of the population.

    Pro- or anti- abortion, don't ignore the important issue - the videogame tax is a minor part of the significance of the proposal.

  9. I can't express how much this pisses me off. by Xiver · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm a very conservative guy, in fact I'm 33 year old software developing, video game playing, gun toting, SUV driving, soda drinking, Jesus freak with a black belt, three daughters, a wife, and a mortgage who would like nothing more than peace on earth in my lifetime. I've played 'violent' video games since there were 'violent' video games. I don't really care for the Grand Theft Auto type of video games, but I've played a couple of them and I don't think I've been warped. I can understand people's frustration with that type of game because it glorifies crime, but guess what, so do %80 of the movies that come out of Hollywood. Almost all video games could be considered violent. Look at Pacman, that weird yellow cannibal that runs around eating 'power pellets' to make him powerful enough to kill the 'ghosts'. Just because someone enjoys playing FPS's, MMORPGs, or other violent games does not mean that they are going to pick up a gun and go on a rampage for laughs. This guy is clueless.

              Property taxes in Texas are a little ridiculous, but my daughters will receive a much better public education than I did because of them. If he really wants to do something good for Texas he would be proposing that the borders be properly patrolled. Maybe he should tax illegal immigration. He certainly won't get my vote or any of the other 'conservative' people that I know.

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  10. Showy piety correlates with simple-mindedness by ianscot · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ah, there is the epitome of sustainable government taxation: tax things you want to destroy.

    In general, don't you find that conspicuously pious posturing and an inability to think through consequences go hand in hand?

    Seriously. This guy is probably a so-called "small government" conservative, too, but he has no problem with the idea of government regulating which video games are violent, and which aren't quite violent enough, to require his new tax.

    At least with tobacco and alcohol, which are the classic models for this, you can make the case that the tax money partly addresses problems created by the "sin" in question. Don't even get me started on the abortion side of this. That's unreal. (If you're pro-life, do you really want an idiot like this on your side? Work on Roe V. Wade, whatever, but a $10,000 tax? That's just dumb, and would be about as legal as Jim Crow poll taxes.)

    The problem's with the folks what elected this bumpkin. Note to American voters: if you're looking for a good, decent person to hold office, try finding someone who actually struggles with moral questions, rather than someone who claims they're easy to decided on for reasons of religious faith or whatever. People who think moral questions are easy are either a) of Godlike divinity; or b) on the wrong side of those questions, but wearing a nice white robe because it gets them power. And I'm fairly sure this guy isn't divine.

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  11. Re:What about taxing the things we can't live with by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or an open-air barbeque license. They say you can't breathe the air in Texas and still claim to be a vegetarian what with all the meat particles from backyard barbequeing. There's gotta be tax revenue in that.

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