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Klorofil 0.2 Released

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on from the not-quite-borofil dept.

Hana writes to tell us that the Klorofil Project has released version 0.2 along with the full source code. Klorofil is an open source project aimed at building an enterprise level PHP development and deployment solution and is licensed under the Common Public License (CPL).

23 comments

  1. The doc system doesn't work... by chroot_james · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not for me in Firefox 1.5. Weak, dudes.

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  2. Reminds me of the old pickup line by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Does this rag smell like kloroform?"

    The klorofil version is the one used for the dead ones.

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  3. Just what we need, by alta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Another tool to enable us to write programs in a language that wasn't designed for the environment we're writing for... Isn't this like putting wings on a car? It wasn't really designed to do that, but someone has a car, and they want to fly. So the hack something together and you end up with a car that neither drives, nor flies well.

    Oh well, I shouldn't complain because all I know is PHP and I may end up abusing it someday.

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    1. Re:Just what we need, by penguin-collective · · Score: 2, Informative

      COBOL was designed for business applications, but that doesn't make it a nice language for that purpose. Fortran was designed for scientific applications, but people increasingly prefer C++. Java was designed for set top boxes and bouncing heads on web pages, but it's being touted as an enterprise platform (although, I suppose, that is supporting your point more than mine).

      In any case, PHP5 is a pretty good dynamic programming language. I think it's better suited to enterprise software development than Java or any of the other widely available alternatives.

    2. Re:Just what we need, by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      hammer, meet nail head

      PHP is turd, and I'm a professional PHP programmer !

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    3. Re:Just what we need, by alta · · Score: 1

      I figured I'd call myself a hipocrit before someone else did it.

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    4. Re:Just what we need, by rainmayun · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hmm, guess I'd better take a closer look at PHP5. I've used PHP 3 and 4 for small to medium sized database-driven web apps, and I've used Java and J2EE for medium to large to enterprise scale web apps, and I would not have agreed with your statement had it been about PHP 3 or 4. I do appreciate the facility the language gives for some simple things (at the expense of type safety), but I can't imagine working in a large team environment with PHP... there's not really a lot of good ways (that I know of) to enforce coding standards.

    5. Re:Just what we need, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do appreciate the facility the language gives for some simple things (at the expense of type safety)

      PHP is type safe, it just happens to be dynamically typed.

      As for large teams, I think they're doomed anyway, PHP or not. Your best bet is to pick the tools that let smart people get the job done with the smallest team possible.

    6. Re:Just what we need, by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Isn't this like putting wings on a car? It wasn't really designed to do that, but someone has a car, and they want to fly.

      Nah, someone sells a wings kit for a Honda CRX.

      This is like putting B2 wings on a Lancaster County Horse Carriage. Hey, they're both black, right?

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    7. Re:Just what we need, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I think it's better suited(PHP) to enterprise software development than Java
      Are you saying that IBM, Oracle, Sybase, Sun, SAP, etc... should drop there enterprise Java platforms for PHP. Are you mentally impaired?
  4. Andi Gutmans at SCALE 4x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Andi Gutmans (Co-creator of PHP and CTO of Zend) will be speaking about the future of PHP5 and plans for PHP6 at SCALE 4x, in Los Angeles on Feb 11-12, 2006.

  5. jargon by acomj · · Score: 1

    I looked at the page "for windows"?? Then after poking around a bit I figured out what it does. I like PHP, but it doesn't seem suitable for application development outside of the web/server arcitecture. Other languages seem better for this.

    And its windows only which makes it DOA for me.

  6. At least they described it... by Myself · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Kudos to the Slashdot editors for working some description into the blurb. I'm so tired of posts trumpeting some grand new project with a nonsense name, that maybe 2% of the readership will care about. Maybe the rest of us would care, but we can't be bothered to look up a new project name every time some dimwit creates a Sourceforge account.

  7. Why PHP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Looks marginally interesting but the PHP runtime is just too friggin slow for serious desktop application development. They really should have targetted a VM like parrot, neko or even lua (see lua-JIT).

    Oh and with a name like that, anybody would think it were a KDE app ;-o

  8. Other PHP Framework Projects are much more Mature by RaisinBread · · Score: 2, Interesting

    CakePHP, for example.

    Why is this getting press? Maybe cause they say 'platform', 'enterprise', and 'scalability' too many times in a single paragraph.

    Oh, and Jon Hicks called. He wants his logo back.

    http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/time-to-redes ign-the-logo-methinks ;)

  9. "enterprise level PHP development" by Megaweapon · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hahahahaha!!!!! *wipes tear*

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  10. Buzzword compliant? by strikethree · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Klorofil is an open source project aimed at building an enterprise level PHP development and deployment solution

    Pardon my ignorance... but what exactly is a "development and deployment" solution? What makes it enterprise level?

    strike

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  11. One of the best things about PHP... by ubiquitin · · Score: 1

    ...is that it works so well on Linux/BSD/OSX etc. Klorofil is a Windows-specific project to apparently infuse a bunch of buzzwords into a PHP install. Two year uptimes are reasonable on a tightly built Unix server and typically very unreasonable on a Windows box that needs to be patched and rebooted every two weeks at a minimum.

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  12. Nothing to see here... by metallic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have no use for yet another MVC framework or a GUI framework for PHP. What I really need is a PHP application server. I don't need anything anywhere near on the scale of what I've used in the J2EE world. But what I do need is the ability to easily install PHP applications and to persist data in server memory and share that data among all requests to the application. Looking at the roadmap, I can't expect that from the Klorofil project until at least version 0.4.

    And they really need to get a native speaker of English to go through and edit the website. I'm not trying to be overly critical, but all the broken English on the website makes the entire project look rather unprofessional. They really cant afford that if they want the project to reach critical mass.

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  13. Not Windows only by karlto · · Score: 1

    And its windows only which makes it DOA for me.

    I guess you missed the part about it being cross platform and the Linux version expected in February...