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Boing Boing Threatened By Software Creator

mfh writes "StarForce has issued threats to Boing Boing's Cory Doctorow in retaliation to Cory's post about the anti-copy malware that installs itself along with many popular (and unpopular) video games." From the BoingBoing post: "Yesterday, I posted about StarForce, a harmful technology used by game companies to restrict their customers' freedom. StarForce attempts to stop game customers from copying their property, but it has the side-effects of destabilizing and crashing the computers on which it is installed. Someone identifying himself as 'Dennis Zhidkov, PR-manager, StarForce Inc.' contacted me this morning and threatened to sue me, and told me that he had contacted the FBI to complain about my 'harassment.'"

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  1. The FBI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He contacted the FBI?

    Well, there's only one response to this nut. Laugh at him because he obviously doens't have a clue as to how to bring legal action against you.

    1. Re:The FBI? by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The company is based in Russia and the guy is obviously not a native English speaker. I assume he doesn't have the slightest idea how US law works or how it's enforced.

      An odd choice as a PR figure, though...

    2. Re:The FBI? by Bogtha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I assume he doesn't have the slightest idea how US law works or how it's enforced.

      Well I assume he doesn't have the slightest idea how US law works, or how it's enforced, or that Cory Doctorow is Canadian, or that he lives in London.

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  2. Simple Fix - Don't Buy by binaryspiral · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When companies realise they are copy protecting themselves out of business, maybe others will learn from their mistakes and not treat every paying customer like a thief.

    Bravo for posting information on this - the public needs more information to make educated choices.

  3. Re:Yay, more useless litigation... by dptalia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, it's not the press - it's the internet, so OF COURSE it's harassment! That's why some companies/politicians are so interested in the FCC rulings on bloggers. If the FCC declares them journalists then we're talking free press, but it they call it political speech that needs to be regulated then the door is open for such lawsuits.

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  4. Classic SLAPP Technique by Nf1nk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a classic SLAPP technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAPP
    One nice thing is that states like California have fairly strong anti Slapp laws and lawyers that specialize in this sort of case

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  5. the problem with "don't buy" by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People will buy until they know. Look around amongst your peers, mention "Sony rootkit" or "DRM" and check how many blank stares you receive.

    Yes, WE know it. Now. Thanks for posting. But we already knew. We already take care of our computers. We already check on CDs if they are REALLY CDs. We already make sure that our Games don't hassle us with "I don't wanna run as long as you have that CD Emu soft running".

    But we don't count, folks. We are a minority. We think before we act. And most of all, we think before we buy.

    We're a small minority. We don't count.

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    1. Re:the problem with "don't buy" by Blue+Stone · · Score: 4, Insightful
      So you tell those people, who stare at you blankly, when you tell them of the Sony Rootkit et al. in a simple and easy to understand manner what it is, and ... get this ... you educate them!

      And they tell their friends, and slowly the pool of available knowledge of these matters, and people's awareness of them, is increased.

      And the snowflake becomes a snowball, and the snowball becomes an avalanche.

      Saying "we don't count" is apathy bordering on self-pity.

      Stop it! And instead do what little you're able! It all adds up. :-)

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  6. This is going to backfire, like Sony by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Making that threat was a big mistake. Now more security people will take a look at this "protection software", probably confirm the holes, and get it marked as hostile code. That will hit the mainstream press, and some major game vendors will be in the position Sony is now in. Expect some product recalls.

    This controversy is good. Games must be stopped from installing code which runs with kernel or administrator privileges. That's introducing too many security holes now, by preventing users from running as a nonprivileged user. Users can't lock down their machines and still run games. That's no longer acceptable.

  7. Re:Two sides to every story by Mathonwy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, can you say "astroturf comment"? Either that or troll, not sure which. Anyway, I'll bite:

    If there have been documented cases of it causing problems, then it doesn't really matter if there have been other cases where it was fine. Even if only 10% of end users see problems, don't you think everyone still would like to know about it, so they can make informed decisions?

    Or, to put in another, more emotionally charged frame: If there was a baby-food that worked fine most of the time, but in 10% of cases caused the baby to explode violently, don't you think people (particularly potential customers) should be told that there were risks? Just because someone could say "well, MY baby didn't explode" would not somehow absolve the company of responsability of the 10% that did.

  8. Re:Geeks embrace copy protection and DRM by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd wager a bet most people (even on Slashdot) had no idea what this software was until their DVD burner suddenly died for no apparent reason halfway through a burn and they had to read online forums to figure out that the problem was with a game they'd bought and installed recently.

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  9. Re:Don't you love how every time these people... by dwandy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    claiming libel and slander when, again, opinions of a entities buisness practices are protected free speech...
    While opinions are protected, false 'facts' are not. The following (from the original) are not opinions, but were persented as statements of fact, not opinion:
    • The software causes system instability and crashes.
    • Starforce, on a regular basis, triggers this silent step down.
    • ...the Starforce drivers, installed on your system, grant ring 0 (system level) privileges to any code under the ring 3 (user level) privileges.

    An opinion might read like "It seems to me that my system became unstable after I installed some software. or I don't like the food at McDonald's.
    A statement of fact should be presented with backing documentation, something like After installing on a clean machine, using SomeMonitoringSoftware and SomeSoftwareToBeTested, it was noted that there were packets lost and the silent step-down was initiated by WinXP.
    ...so if Mr BoingBoing can't prove his statements he might be in for a rough ride...

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  10. WTF Zonk, afraid /. 'll get a nasty letter? by Thud457 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "Boing Boing Threatened By DRM Creator"

    There, I fixed it for you.

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  11. Re:Yay, more useless litigation... by pclminion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    political speech that needs to be regulated

    What a terrifying seven words...

  12. Re:Don't you love how every time these people... by WilliamX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They don't have to post facts. The law doesn't require them to. It only requires them to be RIGHT. There is sufficient evidence in the public purview of the issues he raised that he is not required to cite them. There is a vast amount of information out there that there are in fact problems, and even the game publishers are starting to recognize it.

  13. Re:How is this harrasment? by raju1kabir · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If Cory had actually found the problems he's claiming are in this software, he could have won $10,000 and a free trip to Moscow to demonstrate them.

    Uh, no. Cory said that the Starforce driver caused performance degradation over time, eventually making it impossible to burn discs. He did not say that the drive was physically damaged.

    Starforce is only paying out if you can show them a physically damaged drive. It's a classic straw man. They know that drives are not physically being damaged, but by focusing attention on that idea, they are misdirecting people away from the fact that their software leaves Windows unable to burn discs.

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