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John Romero Developing a MMOG

bmarklein writes "According to computerandvideogames.com, John Romero is to developing an MMO. He doesn't divulge any details, but does say that it's 'the most money I've ever spent on a game' and that it's 'very different from any other MMO for some special reasons.' Will this live up to the hype, or is history repeating itself?"

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  1. MMO? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

    John Romero is to developing an MMO.

    What's a Massive Multiplayer Online? Is that a game where Romero goes around with magical powers, turning all the players into a female dog? Sounds about as much fun as his last big game...

  2. Give him a break by Sheik+Yerbouti · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah the whole John Romero rockstar developer thing was lame. And the John Romero will make you his bitch ad was really lame. But that is enough kicking now let the guy up. He's just a dude we all do stupid things we should't have to hear about them forever.

    1. Re:Give him a break by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "He's just a dude we all do stupid things"

      Yes, but most of us stop.

  3. Editing much? by cortana · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "John Romero is to developing an MMO"? An MMO what?

    1. Re:Editing much? by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think that's as in
      "John Romero is to developing an MMO(G) as George Romero is to directing Romantic Comedies"

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  4. Obligatory Penny Arcade Reference by Vaystrem · · Score: 4, Funny
  5. MMOGs are dead, long live MMOGs? by dada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was wondering why Romero has been relatively silent on the MMOG gaming spectrum. The MMOG world is a little too crowded, but there is so much room for more growth outside of what we consider the standard MMOG platform.

    I have an intense high speed connection on my cell phone (the Samsung t809 -- 150kbps EDGE download speeds, Java capability, great screen. MMOG occupy a lot of home-office time of my friends who are addicted, to the point that they might blow off good live concerts or events to play. If someone finds a way to get the MMOG world onto the high speed cell phones out there, I think Allstate will have higher premiums for drivers after paying out all the accidents caused by using the cell phone for more than talking.

    And what about developing more cross platform mini-MMOGs? I'm not just talking about getting it working between the X-Box, the PS3 and the PC, I also mean older platforms and even PDAs, laptops, cell phones, who knows what else? Java is pretty standardized, and I think it should be able to handle the performance if the server-side does a good job of filtering out more update information than the bandwidth can handle. I don't see why these games need to be tied to a high speed high power computer at home.

    Other things I'd like to see are MMOGs that set some time limits to equalize the time allotments for older players. I know I can't compete as well as the 15 year old can, so I don't play. I don't have that kind of time. A 1 hour a day time limit might be interesting, though, especially if the game works on any of my many platforms I use daily.

    While MMOGs seem to have hit a plateau of sorts, there is still room to grow once they find the new markets. I know MMOGs will be mainstream when we have a reality TV show dedicated entirely to the lives on digital people. Can you imagine the market of geeks who would watch it? Yeesh.

  6. Oh boy! Time for more hype! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Who remembers this?

    "ok, imagine this. you have a health thing and you don't need it.
    you meet someone in the game who has a nice weapon but is really
    low on health. you guys decide to exchange items. you don't really
    trust this guy so you bring along a friend and tell him to hide out
    somewhere with a bead on the other guy's head. you meet somewhere
    in the middle of a field and face off. you drop your health, he drops
    his weapon and you both strafe over the object of your desire. you
    start to back away (not turning your back on him) and suddenly decide
    you're going to whack this guy before he gets a chance to use that
    health. you move towards him and draw back with your hammer. he notices
    this and starts to duck, but it's too late. you smash him in the head
    and watch him fly down to the ground, landing on his side. you smash
    his still body a few more times and cause him to explode! now you and
    your friend pick up all of the items your dead friend left on the
    ground. as you are walking off you pick up his severed head and put
    it in a bag. that will come in useful later... when you need something
    to sacrifice to a demon."

    That's what you used to get if you read his .plan back around 1995. Then we actually saw Quake a year later, and it was just a bigger version of Doom that wanted way more CPU to work properly.

  7. Re:Daikatana by tourvil · · Score: 3, Funny
    I think someone doesn't like you if you have the first post, and get modded as Redundant. Sheesh.

    Must've been a Daikatana fan. :)

  8. John Romero will make you his $19.99/mo bitch by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder what makes it different than most other MMOGs? Maybe he means he won't be using any of the advancements made in the genre in the last ten years? Or maybe it will make your progress dependent on suicidal AIs whose inevitable deaths costs you dearly won progress?

    Or maybe he just means he'll sink incredible amounts of cash into a project that ends up being years late and when finally loosed upon the world is so beneath expectations that it vanishes quietly within months, only to be heard of in derisive jokes?

    No, wait, that would be just like most MMOGs.

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  9. Character classes by Dmala · · Score: 2, Funny

    Of course, one of the character classes will be "John Romero's Bitch"

  10. Probably be modded down for this, but... by Fr05t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Will this live up to the hype, or is history repeating itself?"

    Please check out :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Romero

    Yeah, so basically John started Ion Storm and made a couple turds. The problem wasn't the creative portion, it was the project and technical management.

    What use to make id so great was the combination of John C. and John R. C had the technical know how and ability to push a project ahead with realistic technical goals. R had the creative vision to bring together original and fun game play / storyline.

    Personally I feel that id has landed just as many turds since Romero left. The reason it seemed to go unnoticed is because of the big stiffy game mags / teens have for OMGR33TGRFX!

    Anyhow, back to my point. John Romero has been involved in MANY very good, and successful games in the past (before Ion Storm). I don't see why he can't bring us more terrific games, if he manages to surround himself with the right kind team. Not sure if that's the case this time around, but either way I'm willing to bet this new MMO will actually be an original take on the genre.

    1. Re:Probably be modded down for this, but... by FinestLittleSpace · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Carmack really helps push foward the game technology world, and yes, most say that now he fails to alight the gamePLAY world, but he has as much significance to the techies as he ever did. He's an important head in such a crowded industry.

      Romero is just a bit of an egomaniac who seems to have no clue these days and is past his selldate with everything. Why should we trust him?

    2. Re:Probably be modded down for this, but... by Fr05t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Why should we trust him?"

      Did he steal your lunch money, or something? Why should you trust him? I don't know how to answer that question, because I honestly don't understand how he hurt you so.

      I trust in his ability to bring forth the 'gamePLAY' portion of a game. As I said before if he has the right management / technical people with him, I trust he can live up to his track record. That record being VERY good with the exception of a few games made at Ion.

  11. Re:Daikatana by TheScottishGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

    aye, when the shipyairds git shut doon, we all kent whit it feckin wis. dinnae feckin wirrae.

  12. new mod score by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    -5 (Letdown)

    I first read this as "John **Carmack** developing new MMOG?"

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    -Styopa
  13. I must have misread it by MythoBeast · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought that the tag line said that George Romero was creating a new MMOG. Now THAT would be cool! Especially if they could get Burton to help design the sets, and maybe Geiger to design some monsters.

    I can just see it now. Aliens came and conquored mankind, destroyed all of civilization, and then died of bird flu. The corpses of the dead roam the world, animated as killing machines to help clean up the remaining humans. Even though the aliens are wiped out, the planet is still heavily infested with their deadly flora and fauna. Only a few small enclaves of man remain in existence, subsiding off of scavanged materials and parts gotten from dangerous trips into the nearby critter infested cities.

    Oooo, I like it! Now all I need is a few million and some good developers.

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  14. Question by Omestes · · Score: 2, Funny

    Will it make me his bitch?

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  15. KingIsle Entertainment? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2, Informative

    Could this secret company be KingIsle Entertainment ( http://www.kingsisle.com/ ) ?

    Tom Hall moved to that company to create an MMOG.

  16. zerg by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone makes mistakes. Let's at least wait until the demo comes out before we pass judgement.

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  17. Romero's response by aarku · · Score: 2, Informative
  18. Poor John. by Mathness · · Score: 3, Funny

    John Romero Developing a MMOG

    Is is cureable and is he getting treatment?
    Did he get a second opinion from another doctor?
    What is it any way? I sure hope it isn't some nasty stuff like the avian flu or cancer.

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    Carbon based humanoid in training.
  19. That fits. by leshert · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting... I used to be in the game industry, and a few days ago I got an email from an independent headhunter looking for senior developers to work on a project at "John Romero's new company". At least one of my ex-coworkers from the game days also got the email.

    The email was very short on particulars, but the company appears to be in the Bay area. Honestly, if it weren't for having to pull chocks and move cross-country, I'd seriously have thought about it... yes, Daikatana sucked, and yes, Romeros started breathing a little too much of his own exhaust during the late id days, but I still think he knows what he's talking about.