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The President, The State of the Union, and Genetics

At last night's State of the Union, the president said "Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research, human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling or patenting human embryos." Jamie happened onto a link today which humorously and insightfully addresses this bit from the speech. It's worth your time. Relatedly segphault writes "Ars Technica has an interesting look at scientific research and technology proposals included in Bush's State of the Union address."

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  1. We can rant and rave all WE like... by CyberLord+Seven · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...but half the population of the United States supports him.
    I really don't care what he thinks or says, he has only three more years to FSCK things up. What scares me is that approximately half the voting public agrees with him and could get someone just like him, or worse, in office.
    I don't see anything slowing the Religious Right. I thought they were a temporary fad back in the 1980s, but they are still here and growing more powerful. Just think about Intelligent Design and how far it got before it was slapped down.

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    1. Re:We can rant and rave all WE like... by ral8158 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Just FWI, I'm a republican, and heavily right-wing, and the people I know don't vote for Bush because they support him. They vote for him because it's either him, or John Kerry (Or it was in the 2004 election). Let's face it, at least he's consistent. I don't think John's supporters even knew where he stood. He may be bad a spending money, but believe it or not, it could be a *lot* worse. If you think I'm wrong, when Hillary is in office because you voted for her, because you didn't want the republican alternative (whoever that is), you'd *better* not complain.

    2. Re:We can rant and rave all WE like... by idsofmarch · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      There are numerous problems with your post:

      1. It's FYI (For Your Information.)

      2. You say you're 'heavily right-wing' this would make you a facsist, that's how the whole left-wing versus right-wing paradigm works.

      3. Voting for Bush is a vote for Bush, trying to justify this poor vote by parroting the party-line that Kerry didn't know where he stood while Bush is consistent constitutes a fundamentally poor grasp of the 2004 election it borders on climinal shallowness.

      4. Bush is bad at spending money and he's a poor speaker and he's had a wide number of failures and scandals under his watch. Why did you vote for the man?

      5. The Democratic choice for President has yet to be confirmed, so I think assuming it's going to be Hillary is premature at best.

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  2. The Rapture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    For those in the room who *aren't* baptists or belong to some other "extreme" brand of Christianity, the Rapture cannot come too soon...

  3. Re:Eh? Is that criminal still working? by SilverspurG · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I advise you strongly to abort your comments criticizing the government in any form, in any forum.

    Ridicule is the psychological weapon of the supporters of unchecked authority. If they do not find you here on Slashdot they will identify you indirectly in society--in public, at pubs, at your job, in any social forum which you find.

    Do yourself a favor. Give in to the unquestionable authority of those in power. They know what is best for you. You will only earn yourself a life of misery should you ever manage to make a real argument.

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  4. Extremist? by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    "Too many Republicans oppose is extremist views on science"

    Most of the population, let alone Republicans, support his views on science. Opposing human cloning, selling of human embreyos, and creation of human/animal hybrids is not extreme.

    This was one of Bush's best speaches of the last year, radical liberals are just nit picking now.

  5. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    As opposed to moron liberals, of which there are millions...

  6. Re:But we need to know by Mahou · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "thou shalt not kill people that post on slashdot" isn't in the bible either. what's your point?
    can retards feel pain? can we kill them? what about people in comas? sleeping people? what about a 1 year old baby? what if we use a painless method of killing? and these issues are not "need-to-know" or "critical" or else everyone would be dying. why sacrifice one life that isn't fucked up to say a hypothetical future life that will likely be born messed up? why not just kill of all the messed up babies in the first place?

    how is what you said different than saying "jews are not people, and only qualify as 'human' by virture of DNA they contain. So, please tell me, why is this morally wrong?" or "blacks are not people, [etc]"?

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  7. Re:Bush = Chimera vs Bush = Liar by ArsonSmith · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Q1. something tomhudson does bad?
    A1. He lies. To everyone. Including himself.

    Q2. Why he thinks it is good?
    A2: He must think he's good at it, because he keeps on doing it.

    Q3. Why you think it is bad?
    A3: this post ...

    What exactly did he lie about with WMDs? Iraq? Deficit, or Wiretapping?

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  8. Re:Oh, Democrats by Dausha · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    No matter how you slice it, both parties will admit SS is broken. The fact that the Dems applauded when Bush pointed out that they did nothing to contribute to *any* solution only shows the American heartland that Democrats don't care about the problem. It was actually a pedantic display, IMO. Not to say the Republicans are much better. However, I don't ever remember them heckling a Democrat President.

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  9. Re:Oh, Democrats by Moofie · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Do you remember the name of the person who told you that spelling and punctuation don't matter?

    You need to call them and let them know that they were wrong.

    Please learn to spell "guarantee". Every time I see that word in one of your posts, it's like being stabbed in the face. And not in a good way.

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  10. Re:Pretty much. :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    By your definition, every 13 year old boy has produced millions of these ``potential people'', and sprayed them all over his room wall.

    That's right, lad. And unless you confess your sins to Jesus, you're going to burn in the fiery pits of Hell for all eternity!