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The President, The State of the Union, and Genetics

At last night's State of the Union, the president said "Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research, human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling or patenting human embryos." Jamie happened onto a link today which humorously and insightfully addresses this bit from the speech. It's worth your time. Relatedly segphault writes "Ars Technica has an interesting look at scientific research and technology proposals included in Bush's State of the Union address."

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  1. Slashdot = Terrorism by dada21 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Maybe the Union of the State should look the slashdot effect and how it may be considered terrorism.

  2. Newsflash - The US is pulling out of Iraq! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    See the official press release here .

  3. Re:Bush Promoting Science? Come On! by SilverspurG · · Score: -1, Troll

    Do not dare to question the actions nor the motives of the current government administration, or indeed any government administration.

    The AC trolls will employ all tactics of ridicule to jump all over you. Lest you become a target, do not pursue your course of action.

    For a classic demonstration, see my comments on the the EFF's latest action. This is not just a special case. This is the kind of resistance which I have received for years.

    Thank people like D-side, CryptoCat (aka TenBaseT), and siglite on the Undernet IRC network. These people are self-important, self-secure, and they will stop at nothing to attack their opposition using any means possible.

    Enjoy.

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  4. Bush = Chimera by Whammy666 · · Score: -1, Troll

    I'm all for banning human-animal cloning. Take Bush for example: Here's what happens when you try to merge a human with a chimpanzee. You get a Homo Nesciens chimera as president. Lord knows, we don't need any more of those.

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  5. Re:But we need to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Nice attempt at thread highjacking.

  6. Re:I Don't Believe The Article At All by Surt · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well he did. But he pronounced it wrong.

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  7. "creating human-animal hybrids..." Huh? by neutralstone · · Score: 0, Troll

    ... but humans *are* animals.

  8. Re:It is wrong because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    "Bacteria does not have a nervous system, but its self aware. "

    If you say so, that's all the proof I need! Idiot.

  9. Re:Bush Promoting Science? Come On! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Considering how many 'leaders of academia' are hard core leftists with an agenda, that shouldn't be hard at all. It's interesting how all of your links are to leftist sites that try to cover their blatent partisan politics with fancy (and misleading) names.

  10. Re:It is wrong because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    or you

  11. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    You know what else sounds ridiculous?

    "Rediculous."

  12. Re:Bush Promoting Science? Come On! by damian+cosmas · · Score: 1, Troll

    Here's another one: Money Talks.

    The NSF's budget has increased every year during the Bush administration. From 2001-2003, for example, the NSF granted more money to more researchers every year. Last year's budget proposed by Bush, according to the ACS included similar increases:

    The FY05 administration request for NSF is $5.7 billion, a 3-percent increase or $167 million over the FY04 budget.....a 4.7-percent increase for the NSF Research & Related Activities account. .....The biggest increase in NSF's FY05 budget goes to its Major Research Equipment and Facilities Construction account, which receives a 37.6-percent increase, bringing its funding level to $213.2 million in 2004.
    The FY05 NSF increases would bring the average annual research grant award size to approximately $142,000, up $3,000 over FY04. Average annual grant duration would continue to be 3 years.


    Oh yeah, and the NIH budget doubled[pdf] from 1999 to 2003. For several of those years, a man named George W. Bush was president.

  13. Re:Bush = Chimera vs Bush = Liar by ArsonSmith · · Score: 0, Troll

    WMDs, well first off we knew he had them because we sold them to him. It wasn't a question of weather or not he had them it was weather or not he was still ready to use them and what he was going to do with them. We just had Sadam's #2 state that they did have WMDs as recently as 2002 but they were shipped out as discretly as possible. It wasn't only the US that said they had WMDs either it was pretty much everybody. Of course France and Germany had their heads so far up Sadams ass to get oil that they like to change what they had said. If Sadam didn't have any he was going out of his way to make people think he did.

    Oil? where is this mythical oil that the US is suppose to be getting? Why is Bush saying we need to get rid of our dependancy on oil? Or are you just paroting lies from the other side.

    Pork barrel spending is something that congress does. Bush has attacked it at every point that he can. Congres has been rejecting everything he has suggested because it would kill their little pork projects.

    I'm still trying to figure out what he's lied about with the wire taps? He seems to be telling congress pretty much everything. He belives he has the right under executive power in a time of war, they think he was wrong and should fill out extra paper work. If you don't want to be wire tapped then don't communicate with terrists. It's really that simple.

    All this and I really don't like Bush. Go figure, I just pay attention.

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