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No Same Sex Marriage In World of Warcraft?
Previously, we discussed a World of Warcraft guild representative getting reprimanded for mentioning same-sex relationships while advertising their organization. The subject hasn't been dropped in the intervening days, with GamePolitics providing an update to the community's reaction. Additionally, a Cathode Tan post links to a supposed discussion with a GM that kind of wrecks their whole equal treatment statement. From that post: "[GM] Anyone can report and we will take appropriate action. While it may seem ok because they are truly a heterosexual couple in real life, in game they are two females. Please keep in mind, you need to worry about the other players. While I do understand where you are coming from, there are those who do not have the maturity"
Just not in the game in the General chat channel. They were welcomed to recruit via the Forums.
People defend "GLBT-friendly" - would they defend "Aryan-friendly" or "pedo-friendly" as much as they do "GLBT-friendly?"
And How About Marriage Of EarthlingsTo Martians?
This game must be administered by a citizen(s) of the Unites States Of America. What a bunch of either of:
a) relgious zealots/nutcases
b) immature intellectually impoverished children
c) money grubbers.
...who thinks that getting married in a video game is fucking weird enough, let alone same sex marriages? WoW, what has this world come to? Give it some time, and people will be requesting to marry their pet / minion / whatever screaming "IT'S MY RIGHT DAMNIT!"
Seriously, are there any among us who don't roll their eyes when things like this come up? It's stupid forum drama, perpetuated by morons who all think that their opinion is the only one that matters.
FAGS GO AWAY. Go suck your shit poles somewhere else. I am tired of having all of this gay shit shoved in my face. IT IS FUCKING WRONG. You might as well go fuck a dog or an elephant, it's all the same and it's all DEPRAVED AND DISGUSTING. I am tired of being told that it is ok, you stupid politically correct liberal fucks are DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY. You have succeded in creating a generation of whining pussies that get offended when a man acts like a MAN. KEEP THE FAG SHIT OUT OF VIDEO GAMES. GO FUCK EACH OTHER IN THE ASS AND RAM YOUR SHIT COATED DICKS DOWN EACH OTHER'S THROATS SOMEWHERE ELSE and leave the rest of us, those who haven't been seduced by the devil alone.
I have no issues with gay marriage. If gays want to fuck each other in the ass - that's their business. My only issue with the whole thing is that I think same sex couples should not be allowed to adopt/raise kids. A kid needs both mother and father, IMO. Otherwise you're just messing him/her up.
Once we close this threshold - I will do whatever I can to help ban gay marriage for this reason alone.
So you're trying to say that a same-sex couple can not "raise children in a healthy environment"?
I am sorry, but that's just bigotry.
Yet true.
Call it whatever helps you sleep at night, but homosexuality is not normal and most definitely does not make for a healthy child-rearing environment anymore than two crack heads could.
It's a disease and an aberration. (The word disease used there with an eyeroll and in the same sense that alcoholism is a disease.)
I'm tolerant towards people. I know many fine people that are homosexual. I love them. But they have a problem.
I'm not at all tolerant to this "mainstreaming" of homosexuality that is going on. When you ask me to agree that it's "OK" or accept it as "normal," I draw the line. It's not normal and it's not OK.
When same-sex "couples" figure out how to make children, I'll leave them and their misfit children alone. Until then, you need to understand that there is a God and He is both smarter than you and loves you anyway.
Depends totally on your definition of "normal". It's completely natural and happens in many many species.
Depends on your definition of "natural" and "many, many" and also assumes that humans are just animals. I prefer to believe, based on much evidence, that that is an incredibly stupid idea.
There's no shortage of children on Earth -- the only shortage is of loving parents willing to care for them and raise them.
There's no real shortage there, either. It's artificial and created by busy bodies that need government to help everyone conform to their idea of what the world should be.
I should have warned you that I'm an anarcho-capitalist libertarian that can argue every single problem in the world was either caused by government or made much worse by it.
Maybe teen rated games should not have immorality like gay "marriages" going on in them (not that I think games should be rated but.....)
These games are played by a lot of teenagers. An important part of their growing up is assuming male/female roles. Children who grow up not being able to relate to traditional male and female roles are at a disadvantage in reproduction.
Maybe some of us are just tired of gays pushing their immorality into our entertainment, and think it is time to push back. Maybe intolerance has social value. Maybe those of you who think we should all be sweet with gays have never had much sexual immorality actually happen around you in your family. It is much more fun to see it on TV, let me tell you.
A lot of sexual taboos against things like S&M exist for very good reasons, and should be reinforced not torn down. When you cross the wires between pleasure and pain, you get the sort of monsters most of you have never met outside a novel. When creative bright people don't have children because they are gay, it is a tragedy, not something that should cease to be taboo.
Too many people lack the courage to say anything about it.
How can anyone take the gay/lesbian community seriously when this is the kind of shit they're up in arms about? Does the fact that people in an ONLINE VIDEO GAME use "fag" as everything from a vague insult to a greeting require a goddamned parade from you people?
Yes, we know there are republican inbreeds that will beat you to death for "bein' queer." Yes, that's a terrible thing. But holy soap on a roap, Batman, I wouldn't start crying persecution if some asshole in an online game called me a drunken Irishman. This isn't a civil rights struggle. This isn't a battle for equal rights in civil unions. Blizzard saying "don't bring your sexual orientation into our game" isn't going to result in "straight only" lunch counters any time soon. Pick your battles people, seriously.
In closing, when you define your entire life by what you like to fuck, even to the point of bringing your fucking drama into an ONLINE GAME, it really ought to not be a shock why people look down upon you.
Ahem... now excuse me while I go jump into my flame-resistant jammies.
We all saw this coming.
This situation can be corected with legal documents before hand. If you or your girlfriend/boyfriend wanted the other there after a proceedure, there exists ways of doing this. You can name the other as a guardian in certain situations or just request the presence of those people before you schedule the operation.
The moral of the story here is that even if they was gay, and gay mariage was legal, your granpa and his girlfriend/boyfriend would still be in this situation because they tried to play the system and got burnt. Depending on the state they live in, if they were married, the other spouse could have been forced to pay a certain percent of the nunrsing home fees or be forced to sell thier home so i'm not sure marriage could have changed the situation much.
Instead of going to a nursing home, maybe you should suggest they get a reverse mortage and hire a live-in nurse to assist. Then when both of them need a nursing home, they can pass the money to thier hiers and the home is already taken care of. On another note, His girlfriend can just buy the other half of the house or he can gift it to a reletive as long as that transaction lasts a copuple of years before he goes into the nursing home. In essence what we have here isn't a situation were mariage would have changed the outcome much rather lack of planning and an attempt to beat the system caused problems.
Contract law. Simple as that. Everything you have mentioned can be reasonbly fixed thru contracts and prior planning for both gay and straight couples who don't get married. If you or anyone is thinking of bying a house with another person, you need to consult a qualified lawer and make a contract that deals with all of this. You won't be the first person who has to sell half a house or gone thru a breakup after buying one. Legal les sons have been learned form previous people doing this and lawers can set things up so that it is taken care of. Most people in know of who by a house with someoen they aren't married to do so in the name of a fake corperation or trust and they are either the officers or executers of it. I know of an elderly couple who never married because one would loose thier spouses pention benefits if she remarried. They appointed themselves as guardians over each other in case of medical emergencies. This not only gets them into the hospital when the other is ill, it allows them to consent for treatment on each other.
I'm not against gays getting married. The problem I have is when they say they are being discriminated against and that rights are being taken away. They have the same rights as anyone else in thie nation does. They can marry a person of legal age and of the oposite sex. As yo