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Danish, Western Websites Under Attack
caese writes "The BBC is reporting that almost 900 Danish websites have been defaced by crackers angry about the recent controversy over cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad. From the article: 'What is extraordinary for this Danish case is the speed in which the community united'. Another 1600 or so Western websites have been defaced by the same group. The defacements have ranged from condemnation of the cartoons to outright calls for violence."
These are not worth fighting over.
Trolling is a art,
The cartoons were published in Egypt, and there was no problem:
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Anyone heard about this? Looks like there is a double-standard.
http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_
Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but they are angry cause they cartoons are depicting Muhammad as a terrorist among one of the cartoons correct?
Actually, that has little or nothing to do with it. They're pissed because someone drew a picture of Muhammad, which is forbidden in Islam (the reasoning being that if you start showing pictures of the prophet, that could lead to idolatry). So any kind of image of the prophet can be seen as a "graven image" and against the will of Allah. That by itself is a pretty reasonable view point, but killing people and destroying property over it is not.
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ArabCartoons.htm
Hypocrisy? Yes.
They already are. There is a good write-up about some of the problems they are facing in this weeks Economist Self Doomed to failure
Help fight continental drift.
Put away the Bill O'Reiley book of big words.
Jihad is a religious struggle. The main jihad is within a Muslim, to do the right thing, both spirtually and through good works. There's one hadith says that a young man came to the Prophet and asked to join the Muslim armies and join the jihad. The Prophet told him to go take care of his mother, as that was the greater jihad.
Jihad doesn't mean killing and your definition is wrong. JIhad is a struggle, and no matter how much Faux News pours it down your throat, it won't make it true. Shame on you and shame on the mods who modded you up.
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I started out the same way as you, but was also forced to look into what is actually taught by the Koran. In fact, the prophet taught and practiced the spreading of Islam by sword. Some excerpts from
Fight non-believers
9.123: O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
Kill non-believers
4.89: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
Killing Idolaters
9.5: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Smite the neck and cut fingertips of unbelievers
8.12: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Threat of punishment for not going to war
9.38: O you who believe! What (excuse) have you that when it is said to you: Go forth in Allah's way, you should incline heavily to earth; are you contented with this world's life instead of the hereafter? But the provision of this world's life compared with the hereafter is but little.
9.39: If you do not go forth, He will chastise you with a painful chastisement and bring in your place a people other than you, and you will do Him no harm; and Allah has power over all things.
48.16: Say to those of the dwellers of the desert who were left behind: You shall soon be invited (to fight) against a people possessing mighty prowess; you will fight against them until they submit; then if you obey, Allah will grant you a good reward; and if you turn back as you turned back before, He will punish you with a painful punishment.
There's much more.
I know some muslims and I like all of them. I doubt if any of these self-proclaimed muslims have actually read the Koran though.
Morality is usually taught by the immoral.
If there's anything that this is proving, it's that the crazies are not in the minority here. 500,000 people chanting "death to america, death to israel?"
You are very misinformed (which is admittedly not your fault as the US news it trying to make it sound exactly like the way you are taking it). This "demonstration against the cartoons" is actually just an annaul holy event. You go there next year, you'll see roughly the same number of people marching there. Its just that some of the Islamic radical leaders are getting up in front of this crowd and railing against the cartoons and shouting things like "death to America".
Of course a headline saying "1/2 Million Muslims attend demonstration chanting 'death to America'" sounds much more exciting than "Annual Shia religious event draws 1/2 million where a few radical leaders condem America". I'll let you guess which one American news organizations (I use that term loosely) will lead the evening news with.
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Um... They're here. And here. And here and here and here and here and here and even here and, oh, there are a few hundred more here.
Muslim leaders around the world have issued fatwa after fatwa condemning terrorism and calling for an end to suicide bombings, car bombings, bus bombs, subway bombs, and every other bombing short of another Uwe Boll film. Just because Bill O'Reilly doesn't tell you about it doesn't mean that is never happened.
Where are the clerics denouncing the suicide bombers and those who send them?
Well, here are some and here are some more. The latter is particularly telling, it contains quotes from a group of over 500 clerics in the UK shortly after the London bombings:
"On behalf of over 500 clerics, scholars and Imams the British Muslim Forum issues the following religious decree:
Islam strictly, strongly and severely condemns the use of violence and the destruction of innocent lives.
There is neither place nor justification in Islam for extremism, fanaticism or terrorism. Suicide bombings, which killed and injured innocent people in London, are haram - vehemently prohibited in Islam, and those who committed these barbaric acts in London are criminals not martyrs.
Such acts, as perpetrated in London, are crimes against all of humanity and contrary to the teachings of Islam.
The Holy Koran declares:
"Whoever kills a human being, then it is as though he has killed all mankind; and whoever saves a human life, it is as though he had saved all mankind." (Koran, Surah al-Maidah (5), verse 32).
Islam teaches us to be caring towards all of Allah's (God's) creation, not just mankind. The Prophet of Islam who was described as "a mercy to the worlds" said: "All creation is the family of Allah and that person is most beloved to Allah who is kind and caring towards His family."
Islam's position is clear and unequivocal: murder of one soul is the murder of the whole of humanity; he who shows no respect for human life is an enemy of humanity.
We pray for the defeat of extremism and terrorism in the world.
We pray for peace, security and harmony to triumph in multicultural Great Britain."
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Yeah its really time people rebel agains the big religions which are nothing but cults of death and violence. Let's see what we can find in the bible:
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Gen.7:21-22
God drowns all children (except for Noah's) in a flood.
Gen.22:2
God tells Abraham to kill his son for a burnt offering.
Ex.12:30
God murders the Egyptian firstborn children.
Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21
Children who are disobedient, or who curse or strike their parents are to be killed.
Dt.20:16, Jos.10:40
God ordered the Israelites to kill all of the children in the cities that they invaded.
2 Sam.12:15, 18
To punish David for having Uriah killed, God kills David's newborn son.
2 Kg.2:23-24
God sends bears to kill 42 little boys for making fun of Elisha's bald head.
Jer.19:9
God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.
Ps.135:8, 136:10
God is praised for slaughtering little babies.
Ps.137:9
Happiness is smashing your little children against rocks.
Ezek.5:10
God will cause fathers to eat their sons and sons to eat their fathers.
Hos.9:16
God assures Hosea that he will "slay even the beloved fruit of the womb."
Hos.13:16
God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and "their women with child shall be ripped up."
Zech.13:3
A prophet must be killed by his own parents by "thrusting him through when he prophesieth."
--http://www.mykeru.com/weekly/2004_0118_0124.htm
more here:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/sho
and here
http://www.goatstar.org/atrocities-committed-or-c
They aren't. At least the Muslim Council Of Great Britain hasn't been silent about it. In fact when I heard their spokesman on the radio he was spitting feathers he was so angry about the demonstrators in London.
Maybe it's the fault of the media in certain countries that the moderate Muslim reaction isn't being sought or heard?
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