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Internet Radio Failing to Find Support?

K Fox asks: "WOXY, one of the Internet's larger radio stations, has announced that it will soon implement a monthly subscription fee, to support operations. When the Cincinnati based station went from terrestrial broadcast 97.7 to Internet only, they vowed to keep their streams free to listers. Now, they are saying that increased broadcast taxes, falling advertising revenue, and the overall uncertainty in the market (local or global?) has pushed them to change their business model. Is this a sign of things to come for the other radio stations, that broadcast over the Internet? Will digital music distribution fall solely to giants like XM and iTunes?"

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  1. Re:KCRW by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Informative

    KCRW is one of the larger NPR affiliates, so they are in a completely different league than a small commercial station. One of the joys of being a non-profit publically funded entity...

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  2. This station is great by bemenaker · · Score: 4, Informative
    WOXY was one the premiur stations in the US until they went off the air. (Personally, for the short time afterwards that Matt Sledge was still running the Broadcast station that was left, was the best the station had ever been!)

    WOXY has long been an independant station that played what the DJ's and fans liked. They never sold out to corporate rock, and their motto always has been "Corporate Radio SUCKS!" Their selection varies so widely, and they try their bests to honor requests from everyone. Even when they were on the air and internet at the same time, they took email request around the world.

    Gonna have to buy a subscription and support this incredible station.

  3. Re:KCRW by jdunlevy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Also, critically KCRW's webcast is a simulcast of their over-the-air signal. WOXY.com is now internet-only.

  4. Radio Paradise by jone_stone · · Score: 4, Informative

    The internet radio station I listen to, Radio Paradise, seems to be doing all right, and it's run entirely on user contributions and affiliate programs (iTunes, Amazon, etc). There are no commercials and it isn't even a non-profit. In fact, they recently topped ten thousand simultaneous listeners for the first time. The only minus is that they occasionally mention being listener-supported and ask for donations. Nowhere near as obnoxious as NPR pledge drives, though....

    I know this is just one example, but it shows that it's possible to have an internet radio stations with free streams be a successful business.

  5. Re:Crystal Ball by shark72 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "It will if the RIAA has any say in the matter. The last thing they want is Internet radio. Consider that they pay broadcast radio to play songs but demand to be paid for the same songs going over the Internet."

    I am not sure I follow your logic.

    With terrestrial radio, licenses are paid only to the societies run by and for the composers and songwriters -- ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and the like -- that is, the representatives of the copyright holders of the words and music. The record companies see none of ths money.

    With Internet radio, the RIAA successfully pushed for the owners of the copyright on the recording (that is, the record companies) to get paid, as well.

    Here is how the RIAA puts it on their own site:

    Terrestrial radio stations don't pay sound recording copyright owners. Why should webcasters be treated any differently?

    The lack of a broad sound recording performance right that applies to US terrestrial broadcasts is an historical accident. In almost every other country broadcasters pay for their use of the sound recordings upon which their business is based. For decades, the US recording industry fought unsuccessfully to change this anomaly while broadcasters built very profitable businesses on the creative works of artists and record companies. The broadcasters were simply too strong on Capitol Hill.

    However, with the birth of digital transmission technology, Congress understood the importance of establishing a sound recording performance right for digital transmissions, and did so in 1995 with the Digital Performance Right in Sound Recordings Act ("DPRA"). In doing so, Congress "grandfathered" the old world of terrestrial broadcasting, but required everyone (including broadcasters) operating in the new world of digital transmissions to pay their fair share for using copyrighted sound recordings in their business.

    In short: with Internet broadcasting, the record companies get a cut of the royalties. With traditional radio, they do not. My guess is that they do not want Internet radio stations to go away any time soon.

    This gives Slasdotters three groups of people to hate:

    • The composers and songwriters, for being greedy and demanding to be paid for radio broadcasts. Popular consensus seems to be that they should be happy just playing coffee houses.
    • The broadcast conglomerates (Clear Channel), for being greedy. Oh, and for playing sucky music.
    • The RIAA, for being greedy.
    • Greedy programmers, coders, and IT people who could get by on $50,000 a year, yet who take $70K/year salaries because that's what the job market will bear. (Kidding! Don't worry... that's not greed at all... it's just looking out for your best interests. If you wanted to scrape by on the bare minimum to live on, you would have become a musician or something.)
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  6. Re:I'm not convinced about internet radio... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Man, slashdotters can be so fucking annoying sometimes...

    1. Another defunct one: Turtle Beach Audiotron
    2. Yet Another: KiSS DP-500
    3. This one's actually for sale on Amazon: Roku Soundbridge M1000
    4. Also for sale: Slim Devices Squeezebox
    5. On the high ($2000) end, Denon AVR-4036 Receiver has streaming (among many other things.)
    6. And the winner of our "strangest item": sermonaudio.com internet radio. Though I suspect you'd have to hack it to get it to play anything other than their content :)
    7. Oh, I guess you don't have to hack it, you can just buy the un-sermonized version as Penguin Radio.
    8. D-Link has a DVD player with internet streaming radio called DSM-320RD Medialounge. It's even wireless. There's also a HD version, the DSM-520.
    9. Even Philips has a series called Boombox.

    I'm sorry my initial example was poor. I just grabbed the first link and didn't look at it much. Nonetheless, there are umpteen fucking examples of streaming internet radio devices. Many of them are available on the shelf, even at places like Circuit Shitty. And I've seen several at Fry's, come to think of it.

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