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SGI Warns That Bankruptcy Might Be Year-End Option

tbcpp writes "OS News reports: "SGI issued its most ominous regulatory filing to date, warning that a bad 2006 could force the former high-flyer into bankruptcy. In order to improve its business, SGI will consider measures ranging from axing or selling off product lines to pursuing 'a strategic partner or acquirer.' The hardware maker will basically look at anything and everything to remain a going concern.""

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  1. The Circle Closes by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Recently I was working on a project that involved an SGI server. It was initially just for simulation but it needed to render LADAR images and also show pretty graphics of planes flying over terrain.

    When I got up to present it, I had made a video that captured the output through a capture device of the SGI box. It was a real pain in the ass to capture that in high quality but I did. One of the females in the audience (and it was a large audience) raised her hand and asked me why it looked like shit. I told her that it was because SGI servers concentrate on points of location--not really graphics. She balked at my explanation and kind of scoffed at me for not finding another alternative that sold better. She told me her son's PS2 rendered better graphics than that. I agreed though I said her son's PS2 wasn't concerned about exact locations and LADAR images.

    What I'm trying to say is that they've been surpassed in quality.

    Oh, and another thing, I had to get these LADAR images across the network onto a Windows machine that was running a webservice. Let me tell you that the support for NTFS and SAMBA servers on SGI servers is really not there anymore. I barely got something to work and that was pretty ganky.

    My coworker (who is ten years older than I) told me that those purple boxes used to sell for ~$125k. Now, he says you can pick up the newer ones for around $25k. That's quite the drop in market dominance.

    Goodbye SGI, I'm sorry things didn't work out better for you. You lost site of what kept you floating. In the long long ago, I hear tell you made the product. Today, that foothold has crumbled.

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    1. Re:The Circle Closes by cgenman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think your experience sums it up perfectly: there is a market out there for high-end commodity hardware.

      SGI could easily sell an amazing, high-end but commodity artist's station for 5k. SGI is a legendary brand, and could easily compete with Alienware for the multi-thousand dollar multi-graphics card gaming market. Or external "renderfarms in a box." Or one of a million other things that they could do with some technical wizardry on commodity hardware.

      Specialty hardware and OS's are going away. It is just too much RnD money to sink into chipsets that will only go into a few thousand machines, let alone the software layers required to make working with that power easy.

  2. Please let it be IBM by Gothmolly · · Score: 3, Interesting

    who buys their IP, that is, the IP which isn't secretly pwn3d by Microsoft already. That is, if SGI has any IP that isn't secretly pwn3d by IBM already, either. SGI gave us whizbang graphics, spiffy NUMA stuff, and XFS (and more, let the list begin here). Some of the people there are obviously clever. Let IBM buy them for a song, and set up a skunkworks project somewhere.

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  3. Really smart people, but... by wpg3 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I interviewed at SGI in the early 90s (for a compiler job). I was really impressed by the quality of the people there. But their stock performance was very, very mediocre, and I wondered why so many smart people could do things that don't shine in terms of corporate results.

    I have heard it said of Microsoft that they have so many really smart people, and you don't see it in the products that they actually release to us normal humans. (I have even heard people who work there say it: they say they have really cool stuff in house, that somehow never gets out, or when it gets out, the cool has been removed.)

    I'd be interested in hearing other examples of "really smart engineers working there but the results that outsiders see are mediocre". Amazon.com is another example that comes to mind (I used to work there).

    I do not have an explanation for why this happens so often.

    A counterexample: I worked at Apple in the early 90s and, given the amount of really dim or useless people we had there, we had really GREAT products.

  4. When there's blood in the streets... by ArmedLemming · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back during the .com bubble bust, I was looking to invest in a company with some of my RedHat stock money I'd made (post IPO). A coworker who had been dabbling in trading heard my question. He suggested I invest into SGI. I looked 'em up and they were somewhere around $10. Having just invested in a stock that I bought at $50 and sold at double the price, I wasn't too keen on buying such an inexpensive stock. He just shook his head knowingly and looked at me with a big smile and said:

    "When there's blood in the streets, buy!"

    So i finally got around to buying it at $12/share. That was its peak. I waited and waited, but only lost and lost. I sold most of it at something like $5/share.

    Two lessons learned:

    1) Some companies have more blood than you think they do.
    2) I am not (nor was ever) a real stock trader.

    To hear that SGI's only now announcing the possibility of bankruptcy tells me they had years worth of blood left...

    (My friend never sold his stock and AFAIK still holds his shares!)

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  5. State of the Art: SGI is so 1996 by postbigbang · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Huge proprietary one-off systems, divisions that fight each other, a virtual pinball machine of executive changes, marketing that would make even DEC blush, it's no wonder why SGI is toying with Chapter 11. This after several years of trying to get themselves sold, is just so amusing.

    I have a strong pity for people that thought SGI was a Silicon Valley progenitor and captain, only to find that it was really a dopey engineering company determined to constantly reinvent the wheel, never use anything anyone else did, and had the quintessential not-invented-here sickness that nearly killed Silicon Valley after co-inventing it.

    It's my fervent hope that they just liquidate, and get it over with. My advice: skip Chapter 11 and go straight for seven, and put SGI and its employees (I've known many) out of its constant misery and pain.

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  6. nostalgia by alphafoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SGI was my first non-government job, and my first time exposed to the Bay Area, back in the early 90's. SGI was just on a tear then, with Jurassic Park and virtual reality and so on, and it was a blast to work there. In fact, looking back, I'd say I was happier when I was at the office than when I wasn't. The people were brilliant, the products were dead sexy, and the environment was all about balance. For instance, while the group I worked in taught me a lot about what can be done with a polygon, they also introduced me to sumo wrestling (those padded costumes), windsurfing, motorcycle riding, a Grateful Dead concert (one of Jerry's last ones), and strip clubs (bachelor party for a team member).

    If there's ever a funeral for SGI, I'd show up.

  7. Re:You mean.... by distributed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was reminded of this interesting post I had found on an mit email archive a few months back... http://projects.csail.mit.edu/gsb/archives/old/gsb -archive/gsb2001-06-29.html Its the Itanic... she sinkin n draggin everyone with her. So much for the MIPS.

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  8. Killed by Belluzzo and Itanium. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SGI's MIPS once ruled 64-bit computing (along with Alpha). Somehow all changed when Belluzzo convinced them to become yet-another-wintel dealer; and Intel bluffed them into giving up their technical expetise with Itanium vaporware.
    You kinda feel sorry for them - but this has been a long long time coming. Funny thing is that people call Itanium a failure; while in really it's key in helping Intel take 64-bit leadership away from MIPS & Alpha -- and Belluzzo got a president job at microsoft rummored to be largely because of his role in killing the microsoft competitors of SGI as its CEO and crippling the non-wintel parts of HP in his exc management role there.

  9. SGI is patent wealthy by sadangel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe they aren't taking in cash hand over fist like they used to, but SGI still holds some serious patents that are being used by Nvidia, ATI, and other major players. I doubt they will go the SCO route and start suing everyone, but don't be surprised if there is a bidding war over this particular bloated corpse.