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Love Under a Microscope

smooth wombat writes "As today is one of the top five marketing-induced spending days, the obvious question is, what is love? Anthropologist Helen Fisher studied the brain's circuitry and found that the brain sees romantic love as a reward similar to chocolate, money or drugs. Does this mean that the mystery of love is less magical now that science has studied it under the microscope? According to Dr Fisher: 'You can know every ingredient in a piece of chocolate cake, and you still sit down and eat that chocolate cake and it's wonderful,' she said. 'In the same way, you can know all the ingredients of romantic love and still feel that passion.'"

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  1. Love is a survival trait. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is love?
    Baby don't hurt me
    Don't hurt me, no more
    Haddaway, What Is Love
    Oh oh catch that buzz
    Love is the drug I'm thinking of
    Oh oh can't you see
    Love is the drug for me
    Brian Ferry, Love Is The Drug
    From TFA:
    Romantic love is not only an emotion, it's a basic mating drive, and it's stronger than the sex drive.
    Since the odds of survival for a human child with two parents is (or at least was) much higher than the odds of a single-parent child, it shouldn't be surprising that humans have a strong drive to forge lasting relationships. Natural selection in action, and all that.
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    1. Re:Love is a survival trait. by pclminion · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Since the odds of survival for a human child with two parents is (or at least was) much higher than the odds of a single-parent child, it shouldn't be surprising that humans have a strong drive to forge lasting relationships. Natural selection in action, and all that.

      Yeah, but a community-based social structure is also effective for child rearing. I suspect that the actual trigger for human monogamy was sexually transmitted disease, and that it's more of a social meme than a biological trait.

  2. What is love? by wrf3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Greeks had four words for love: agape, phileo, eros, and storge. We English speakers seem to conflate everything around eros and thereby miss the point. Love is the act of the will whereby another individual is placed ahead of yourself. That's why Christians are commanded to "love their enemies" and why the Apostle Paul wrote that the greatest act of love was when God gave His Son as the sacrifice for the sins of the world.

    No naturalistic scientist could ever write:

        Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant
        or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
        it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth.
        It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
        Love never ends.

  3. Love is...keeping your promises. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Insightful
    My wife, Susan, and I were together for 20 years.
    We were an unconventional, but very happy couple (I am 42, she was 61).

    If romantic love is a reward, it's a reward for something deeper.

    • Love is dropping everything when she's diagnosed with a brain tumor in November 2005.
    • Love is being there for surgery, medication ... everything.
    • Love is staying there 24/7 for the week she's in a coma.
    • Love is making sure she's never in any pain and never alone.
    • Love is holding her in your arms when she dies in January 2006.
    • Love is keeping your promises.
    • Love is missing her.
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    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  4. Re:Oxytocin junkies by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I've eaten some pretty fucking good chocolate cake in my day. Ain't never wanted to die for the shit.

    There are people who'd say things like that about their preferred batch of ingredients. We call them junkies, the chemical they use is called by many names -- not the least of which is junk. When a junkie is deprived of junk, they go through withdrawal. They experience physical pain, depression, and often behave irrationally or self-destructively in order to get their fix.

    I think there's a very big difference between people who say they are willing to die for their partner and people who are willing to commit suicide as a result of rejection. Don't attempt to compare willing self-sacrifice to save another with irrational, self-destructive behavior. They aren't the same thing. One is driven out of care for another, the other out of care for oneself.

    Dying for someone you care about is driven by of a sense of protection, and is a trait that has benefits for the survival of the species. Killing oneself because of being deprived of someone's love is driven by a selfish sense of want, and is a trait that just tends to Darwinianly reduce the gene pool..

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  5. Re:Drugs, yep. QWZX by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You might feel like you're correct but there is no absolute right or wrong when a person alters their brain chemistry. If you're judging me from a moral basis, then I have no argument. You will always be right and I will always be wrong. But why are you wanting to pick a fight with people that have no problem altering their own conciousness? It's theirs, not yours. Do you make the same arguments with your friends (if you have any) that consciously and willfully alter their brain chemistry/nervous system when it's caffiene? or chocolate? Or maybe they have passion for bubble baths. You're arguing against a completely natural and healthy need for human beings to transcend the daily reality they live out. What you're doing is completely unhealthy and probably causes more brain damage to yourself than cannabis will ever do.

    Now I'm sure you live a very healthy and productive life. You probably don't smoke, don't drink coffee, will never sky dive or eat chocolate and live a perfectly celibate life. I respect that, I never attacked what you make of your life did I?

    For the rest of humanity, for the people that have not graduated with honours from their local high school DARE program like you have, we will continue to enjoy what life has to offer us. I have no problem with your personal choice, but please don't be so quick to judge people based on what you personally believe is a moral failing. Your morals are not mine.