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The BBC's Distributed Climate Prediction

CongoJoe writes "The BBC has teamed up with Oxford University to conduct the world's most ambitious climate modeling experiment." From the article: "Trying to predict climate change is hard. There are lots of factors involved - air temperature, sea temperature and cloud cover all play a part - as do dozens of other variables. Therefore, there are a huge number of calculations involved ... Using a technique known as distributed computing, we're hoping to harness the power of thousands of PCs around the world. If 10,000 people sign up, we'll be faster than the world's biggest computer. And we're hoping to be even better than that."

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  1. Re:I wonder what would happen by Animekiksazz · · Score: 3, Informative
  2. Re:I wonder what would happen by iangoldby · · Score: 4, Informative

    RTFA.

    They explicitly tell you in the instructions (several times) that you should not leave your computer switched on any more than you would without the simulation. You should use your computer as normal, shutting it down when you don't need it.

  3. update: by artifex2004 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Unfortunately the Apple Mac is not yet supported for the BBC Climate Change Experiment. You can though install OS X compatible climate experiments from climateprediction.net.


    So no, the BBC experiment itself doesn't have an OSX client.
  4. Re:Only 10,000? by Animekiksazz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sulphur cycle models now take about 1200 hours on my 2.4 GHz X2* to complete. Trickles are sent about every 7-8 hours I think. So you get credit every 7-8 hours, and bits of the results are uploaded. You can follow along on the graphs they provide.

    I'm running a Spinup test model, they want 200 simulated years. It's taken 1891 hours for 68.69%. You'll never get this model though, so you don't have to worry about this much computing time.

    * One model per core

  5. Answers to some comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    In a long term ClimatePrediction.net user let me answer a few questions:

    1. the extra electricity used is insignificant in global terms. In winter the extra heat generated means you don't need to keep your central heating so high. Super-computers use lots of electricity themselves so running these same simulations on one (actually would take dozens) would not be better.

    2. We are currently at just under 50,000 users, sounds a lot but there are millions of potential models to crunch - although useful science can be done with a smaller number. I would expect over 100,000 users to enrole in total. Some users are experiencing problems, they seem a very small percentage of the total judging by the posts on the help lines. Many of the problems are due to trying to run it one machines not powerful enough, climate simulations are heavy duty programs and need a beefy machine to run in a reasonable time.

    3. The exeriment is an 80 year hindcast + 80 year forecast 1920-2080, even if a model does not complete the hindcast will be useful. The second BBC program is scheduled for May which is the "end" of the project, in pratice the scientists will be able to use results reported for at least a year after than. Its the science that counts.

    4. The data is not being hoarded by the BBC, it is kept by the ClimatePrediction.net team, and is available to scientist throughout the world.

    5. in a few days the ClimatePrediction.net servers will start dishing out TCM models to their users, that will add another 45,000 odd machines.

    6. ClimatePrediction.net is in the midst of a sulphur cycle experiment, which compelements the 2x CO2 doubling and THC slowdown experients. There is at least one other experiment in beta.

    7. ClimatePrediction.net has already had one major paper in Nature, as well as many others, this is the distributed project that seems to producing the best science.

  6. Re:BBC go away, come again another day by north.coaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you don't trust the BBC, then sign up via the original web site at Oxford University. This distributed computing experiment as been running for a couple years (I was a beta tester). They have already published some initial results.