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Film Studios Sue Samsung Over DVD players

Lam1969 writes "The Korea Times reports that five U.S. film studios have taken Samsung to court for selling DVD players which allow users to bypass DRM features. The film companies, including Walt Disney and Time Warner, are demanding Samsung recall the players. According to a Samsung spokesman quoted in the article, the movie studios probably 'take issue' with Samsung's HD841 model, which Samsung sold in the United States for five months in 2004."

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  1. movie industry list $5.4bn? by linuxhansl · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Motion Picture Association of America estimates that the movie industry lost $5.4 billion last year due to piracy.

    $5.400.000.000?! I sure would like to see the math behind this estimation. It's probably the old non-sensical #copied movie * $$/movie. Let's say the average DVD price is around $20, that means 270.000.000 movies have been copied? Yeah right!

    And it assumes:

    1. All of the people who pirated a movie would have bought otherwise.
    2. None of the people who pirated later went and bought the movie.

    I'm getting quite tired of these MPAA calculations.

    The opposed feature in these players is most likely the ability to disable the country-code in these players (via a hidden menu) so that non-US DVDs - in fact all DVDs - can be played in the players. I for one never understood why I shouldn't be able to watch DVDs that I bought in Europe because I *cannot* get them here.

    Oh well... In the end the MPAA will succeed convincing enough politicians who will pass more and more stringent laws, copyright will be extended to 500 years, and in a decade or so the movie industry will be facing bancruptcy and wondering why nobody is buying their super-duper-extra-high-definition-drm-secured-DVDs -of-dumb-holywood-crap anymore.

    As I mentioned somewhere before: Instead of land-owners and peasants without rights and property we'll have information-owners and rightless masses of consumers... Information-Feudalism.

  2. Evidence by pubjames · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Is there any evidence that the encryption actually reduces piracy, in other words, increases sales? Is there any evidence that zoning on DVDs increases sales?

    To what extent does zoning reduce sales? For instance, holidaymakers and businessmen not being able to purchase DVDs in the countries they visit due to zoning? Have the film studios researched this? Anyone know of any relevant market research?

  3. Explaining DRM to a 2 year old by daBass · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My brother was recently forced to copy a DVD. It was a very cheap children's DVD his son loves. The problem? There was a 2 and a half minute non-skipable copyright notice before the main feature.

    You try explaining that one to a 2 year old...

  4. I hate the non-skippable DVDs by mochan_s · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I watch DVDs on my computer. I "upgraded" my DVD-player software and it wouldn't let me skip sections that the DVD says can't skip.

    I was watching Voyager DVDs and every episode starts with a non-skippable 10s clip of Voyager powering up and moving across the sreen. Even though it was only for 10s, after 3-4 episodes I was really really hating that clip.

    Anyway, I feel that now a pirate DVD is more valueable than a real DVD since pirate DVDs remove all skip codes and DRM and makes for more pleasant viewing.

  5. What about current models? by Munchr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why sue over a player that hasn't been comercially available for over a year? If they're going to sue over an unlockable player, why not sue Philips over the DVP642 which is still on the market and is region and macrovision unlockable through hidden menus. Or sue a company like Apex which has consistantly released an unlockable model, quickly followed by a "corrected" player, over and over again?

  6. a recall, sure that makes sense by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course we all know a recall would get nearly 100% of these offending boxes. I know I certainly would return my box, particularly if I really had DVDs with different region codes and the box could play them all, or if I knew I could use the box to othherwise get around DRM. Heck, who wouldn't want to rush to send back their recalled player for one that was hobbled? Of course, the more cynical might say that the only boxes they would get back on a recall would be those that have already died or those used by people who would never use the device to get around DRM anyway, and that a recall would only serve to alert consumers that this model has a feature they might want and find hard to get. It will be interesting to see how this works out.

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  7. Re:Come after me by failure-man · · Score: 3, Interesting

    MPlayer is, of course, illegal in several countries (at least if you're playing encrypted DVDs, which anything with shit to be skipped will be.)

    Still, I'm hardly deterred by that. I'd like to see them try to sue someone for playing a disc that they personally own. I after all know the Kryptonite of any standard corporate lawyer-ninja squad: the jury trial. You'll be hard pressed to find a jury that will award against Joe Q. Public to a multi-billion dollar corporation for doing something that seems reasonable.

    Of course, that does nothing to shield the MPlayer dev team, who are (mostly) safe at the moment only because they live outside of US jurisdiction.

  8. Re:Come after me by meringuoid · · Score: 3, Interesting
    One of the best features of mplayer is it's no-nonsense approach to DVD playback. It just launches the movie. No menus, no FBI warnings, no ads, no crap.

    Oh, you still get to see the ads and warnings with mplayer.

    $ mplayer dvd://1
    -- Publisher's logo

    $ mplayer dvd://2
    -- copyright warning

    $ mplayer dvd://3
    -- copyright warning, in Flemish

    $ mplayer dvd://4
    -- copyright warning, in Linear A

    $ mplayer dvd://5
    -- trailers for upcoming releases

    $ mplayer dvd://6
    -- original theatrical trailer

    $ mplayer dvd://7
    -- interview with director

    $ mplayer dvd://8
    -- interview with voice actor

    $ mplayer dvd://9
    -- interview with dub voice actor

    $ mplayer dvd://10
    -- THE FILM! YAY! AT LAST! * sits back, grabs snacks and b33r *

    ... oh, shit...

    $ mplayer dvd://10 -alang ja -slang en

    Hooray for convenience!

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  9. I don't want this to be flamebait, but... by rcs1000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I wrote this about my "right" to run OS X on whatever hardware I liked, I'd be kicked to the ground, and then people would get "+5, insightfuls" for saying that Apple has the right to restrict how its software is run. (After all, you agreed to the EULA...)

    Presumably the logic is simple: Apple restrics rights, fine; Microsoft, the MPAA or anyone else restricts right, treason!

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