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Google.org to Spend an Initial $1.1 Billion

conq writes "Google.org, the charitable branch of Google, has hired on Dr. Larry Brilliant to create a strategy for making a 'social impact.' According to the article: 'The network will focus its charitable endeavors on global poverty, energy, and the environment.' Brilliant outlines his goal: 'In 10 years, I'd like people to say Google changed the world less for its search engine than for the way in which it changed philanthropy to make the world a better place.'"

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  1. Making the world a better place... by been42 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    'In 10 years, I'd like people to say Google changed the world less for its search engine than for the way in which it changed philanthropy to make the world a better place.'

    So is google.org going to start by shutting down or opening up google.cn?

    1. Re:Making the world a better place... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So is google.org going to start by shutting down or opening up google.cn?

      Please explain how the former is beneficial or how the latter is possible for Google to do.

  2. Can you say Netscape? by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is it that they're increasingly acting like Netscape these days? They're still a small company compared to Microsoft and they seem oblivious to the fact that Microsoft caught up to Netscape once Netscape started to lose focus. Become as big as Microsoft, then you can do things like this. $1.1B, even over ten years, is a lot of money that could be reinvested in the company to provide more jobs and grow the company. Again, Netscape seemed unbeatable but now is on the trash heap of history.

    If they want to make a difference, how about investing money into good civics lessons in the countries wracked by violence. Teach them peaceful resolution of differences, undermine their tribal identities to create a unified national identity and teach them the value of working together in a way respectful of basic civil rights. That's why they get in this mess. Almost every time an African country manages a decent election, the opposition goes onto the warpath to try and take power. If they want to really shake things up, teach them the values that made America be able to unify and work together to become an industrial power. Until then, it's all a bunch of shiny things.

  3. Mistaking the Term for the Purpose.. by delire · · Score: 3, Insightful
    In 10 years, I'd like people to say Google changed the world less for its search engine than for the way in which it changed philanthropy to make the world a better place.
    What a strange quest, to make a contribution to Philanthropy itself.
  4. Or by temojen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Set up a factory in a third world country to build:

    Wheelbarrows
    Handcarts
    Bicycles
    Water pumps (well and irrigation)
    Ploughs
    Seed drills
    Hand tools
    Evaporative refrigeration Jars

    And better yet, also help set up a marketing/distribution co-op of just-above-subsistence farmers, and seed banks that also submit to some journal as "prior art" to prevent patents on indigenous varieties.

    And set up education programs for urban gardening in the developing world and low-income areas of the developed world.

    1. Re:Or by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Insightful
      On the contrary, these sound like practical ideas from someone who's been there.

      When I was in Madagascar, one thing I noticed is that homemade carts were one of the major ways goods were moved. But the Malagasy lack the skills to build decent wheels, so you'd see these cockeyed contraptions made of rebar, or else scavenged sets of ball bearings used as tiny wheels. Better wheels for handcarts, dollies and bicycles would improve the economy by allowing people to transport their goods within and between towns faster, further, and with less effort. I suspect that this kind of simple, practical technology would do much to improve the average person's life. Likewise, better and cheaper tools such as machetes, knives, hammers and shovels would do a lot to help farmers produce more with less input of money and effort. My basic take on the country is that a nationwide crash-course in Shop 101 might do a lot more good than CS 101; then we can worry about the computers.

      How to accomplish this is arguable. The easiest and most cost-effective thing to do might be start out at the level of training craftsmen and setting up workshops, rather than large-scale factories. Small towns in Madagascar don't need a full-scale wheel factory, but they could use a couple craftsmen who know how to make wooden wheels the old fashioned way, and some good blacksmiths, or some small shops equipped with lathes and drill presses, with a few guys who know how to use them.

  5. It didn't work for Bill Gates by ltwally · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Bill Gates is the single largest philanthropist in the world... and, yet, he's still thought of as the antiChrist by many. If it didn't work for Bill Gates, what makes Google think it will work for it?

    However, this is not to say that such endeavors are not worth doing. I'm all for big companies striving to make the world a better place.

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    1. Re:It didn't work for Bill Gates by blibbler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People keep on dismissing Gates' donations by saying all of the money microsoft makes is from breaking the law, or unethical practices. Correct me if I am wrong, but the only "illegal" activities that have even come close to sticking to microsoft are their actions in relation to IE and windows media player.. both of which are free, and compete against free alternatives.
      Microsoft makes a very substantial portion of their income from Office, and the fact is that Office is the best office suite available.

      I am no microsoft fanboy (I use macs exclusively) but the constant dismissal of Gates' philanthopy is really pathetic

  6. Time for shareholder lawsuits by csoto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How does philanthropy improve shareholder value?

    No, I'm not a staunch capitalist. I don't really even invest much. But, if you play by the rules of capitalism, you die by those same rules. Unless this is being funded directly by the shareholder founders, then it's not clear this adds shareholder value, and therefore puts Google at risk.

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    1. Re:Time for shareholder lawsuits by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Capitalism also implies that you're free to do what you wish with your capital. Google has already specified in their prospectus that philanthropy is one of those things it wishes to do with its capital. Constantly increasing shareholder value is usually assumed to be the only purpose of a corporation, but there can be others. Every shareholder of Google is aware of this and concedes to it by means of choosing to own their Google stock up to and including today.

  7. Re:Education on human rights, liberalism & cap by oGMo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If Google (or any philanthropist) wants to really help a poor country, persuading them to depose their theocratic / despotic / fascist / socialist / puppet Governments and replace them with a constitutionally-bound Republic would be a good start.

    Don't make me laugh. This country is hardly an example of stablism. We've been around for barely over 200 years, and it amuses me everytime someone thinks we should go "convert" another country to our preferred governmental system.

    Historically, both Greek democracies and Roman republics were short-lived. These are just about our only other only other historic examples of such ruling systems. The longest-lived systems are more along the lines of emperial monarchies, whose lines can stretch for millenia.

    If you believe that a "constitutionally-bound Republican government" will end suffering and poverty, I recommend you descend from your ivory tower and walk among the ghettos and homeless shelters of your local city sometime. That you visit some truly poor and struggling families. The belief that education and democracy will end the world's problems is stereotypically naive American thinking.

    A stable monarchy would be a better choice. You will still end up with different social strata (ruling class, middle class, poor class---you are fooling yourself if you believe these do not exist in a republic), but the poorest will be in general better off. (Note: a monarchy does not imply a dictatorship.)

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  8. Re:Education on human rights, liberalism & cap by ThousandStars · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you believe that a "constitutionally-bound Republican government" will end suffering and poverty, I recommend you descend from your ivory tower and walk among the ghettos and homeless shelters of your local city sometime. That you visit some truly poor and struggling families. The belief that education and democracy will end the world's problems is stereotypically naive American thinking.

    A stable monarchy would be a better choice. You will still end up with different social strata (ruling class, middle class, poor class---you are fooling yourself if you believe these do not exist in a republic), but the poorest will be in general better off. (Note: a monarchy does not imply a dictatorship.)

    No offense, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You knock down a variety of strawmen to make a point that's wrong anyway.

    Monarchies are inherently dictatorships because everyone must follow the rule of a single person. A monarchy does not just imply a dictatorship -- it requires one. The problem with them is that, while their may be a benevelent dictator or monarch for a generation or two, inevitably someone seizes or inherits power and then wields it for his own benefit and to the detriment of his citizens. Historically, free government and free speech lead to material wealth and improved living standards. There is no way to "end suffering and poverty" but there are ways to alleviate it for the vast majority of the population.

    Your examples are terrible. Although homeless shelters do exist and not all people are equal in America (or other western countries), the poor of this country are considerably better off than even the rich of many third-world countries. Most American poor have TVs and cars; the poor of many other countries wonder where their next meal will come from.

    Education and democracy will not end all the world's problems, but they will improve the overall well-being of the people. Of course, you elitist view has been argued throughout history. Those who impose it only cause greater suffering to their people. No one argues that different social classes develop in republics, but that doesn't mean that a republic isn't a superior form of government.

  9. What scares me most about this post by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is the up modding it received, (currently at 5 insightful) and the lack of upmodding to the responses. Have you ever lived under a proper monarchy? Have you any idea besides what the legends of king arthur tell you what that entails? Speaking as someone from Ireland, not so long ago my country was the orginator of such terms as "scorched earth policy", "coffin ships", and "lynching". All because whatever inbred monkey that happened to be sitting on the metal chair took a fit and decided that was a good way to go this season.

    You want to wake up, son. Monarchies are never meritocracies, the best does not rise to the top. The wealthy have their status codified and secured by law, enforced by the willing peons that were beggared by the noble classes themselves, but are too ill educated to see it, again due to the noble classes.

    The longest-lived systems are more along the lines of emperial monarchies, whose lines can stretch for millenia

    Good lord. You say this like its a good thing. The advances in science and living conditions made in primarily western nations that gave us what we have today were made when..? Thats right, in the last 200 years. Seeing the connection yet? Just because some thugs can settle into hereditary positions and bully the rest of the population for a few millenia with hired heavies doesn't make it smart or right. Still with me? Good lad. The longest lived systems are only stable from the top. And even then not very stable.

    As I was saying, the scariest thing about this post is the agreement I see with it. Its like you americans have forgotten what it was like. Does anyone doubt that a lot of people in the US today would mind living under a monarchy? Yeesh.