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Linux On Older Hardware

Joe Barr writes "Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier has put together a substantive report on how well Linux runs on older hardware. Are you surprised to learn that the belch of smoke and FUD out of Redmond on the topic last month isn't true? As Zonker shows, 'The bottom line: Linux is still quite suitable for older hardware. It might not turn your aging PC into a powerhouse, but it will extend its lifespan considerably.' NewsForge, like Slashdot, is part of OSTG."

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  1. Why not paste the real link? by jpetts · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do us a favour: post the link to TFA at linux.com, not just the link to a single paragraph at "News"forge.

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  2. Non-CD Booting Options and Distro Support by billstewart · · Score: 3, Informative
    I don't consider a machine that can boot from CDROM to be old :-) (And I especially don't consider any machine that supports USB to be old...)

    Machines that have to boot from floppy or HD are old, and laptops with random pre-Cardbus PCMCIA Ethernet cards are old, and working with them requires distro support for booting from floppy into a system with the right Ethernet drivers and/or support for booting from MS-DOS file systems that you loaded before the first Linux boot. Many of the distros out there _could_ do it, but don't necessarily give you the documentation to figure out how :-)

    One trick I'm planning to try soon is putting the laptop disk into an external USB shoebox so I can load it from one of my larger computers, side-stepping the whole problem. That still requires a sufficiently small distro, but at least it's a start.

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  3. Re:Verus older versions of Windows? by BorgHunter · · Score: 3, Informative

    [Windows 2000] is part of the Microsoft Windows NT line of operating systems and was released on February 17, 2000.

    The original Pentium 4, codenamed "Willamette", ran at 1.4 and 1.5 GHz and was released in November 2000 on the Socket 423 platform.

    The Pentium III is an x86 (more precisely, an i686) architecture microprocessor by Intel, introduced on February 26, 1999.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2000
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_III

    In short, when 2k came out, P4 was almost there and PIII Coppermine was ubiquitous. A Pentium II would no more be "high end" then than a Willamette P4 at 1.5 GHz would be "high end" today, loosely. Though you are correct: Win2k does run well on hardware like that.

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  4. Don't forget Sparc by AFCArchvile · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've done a bit of installing on some Sparc machines over the past year, so I know a little bit about running near-modern *nix on older hardware. My first foray into it was when I picked up a Sparcstation 5 for free. It has a 110 MHz CPU, 256 MB of RAM, and an 8-bit framebuffer. The first OS that I fully installed on it was Debian Woody for Sparc. The first installation had GNOME; it ran, but not really in a speedy fashion. I later switched back to lighter-weight environments like fluxbox or XFCE. When I picked up the Ultra 2 (2 x 300 MHz UltraSparc, 640 MB of RAM, 24-bit Creator3D framebuffer), it ran quite a bit better in Debian Woody / GNOME, thanks to the faster processors and larger memory space. Still nowhere near P3 level performance, but to be fair, this was a workstation built in 1996, and was the fastest thing in its day. When Solaris 10 came out in the free RTU license for multiprocessor machines, I installed that. Java Desktop loads up a bit slowly, so I usually log in with CDE, but the other aspects of the Ultra 2 are great for a 10-year-old computer. It can even burn 8X CD-Rs without stuttering. Your average PC back in 1996 probably wouldn't be able to sustain the throughput for 6x, let alone 8x. Once the Ultra 2 became the primary user of the 13W3 monitor due to its 24-bit framebuffer, I relegated the Sparcstation 5 to headless duty, using Debian Woody, then Sarge, and currently NetBSD 3.0.

    Right now the Sparcstation series is a bit long in the tooth for graphical use beyond an ultra-light window manager like XFCE, but they were small form factor before there was a mainstream market for it. Companies like Sun and SGI made small workstations with fast processors and great throughput (and high margins and prices!).

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  5. Re:Verus older versions of Windows? by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 3, Informative
    >> The only feature I miss is remote desktop, and that's only of marginal utility.

    That's the most important reason why to install Server 2003 or XP. Once you start using it, it changes the way you work with Windows machines.

    I suggest trying to find a copy of Server 2000 so at least you get Terminal Services (with unlimited connections in Per-User mode!). If you're too poor to spring for it, or don't trust P2P, you should try to find NTSwitch.exe... and follow these instructions:

    - Execute the NTSwitch Program (Backup your system first) following the instructions that it gives

    - You MUST immediately afterward successfully install (any) Service Pack. It apparantly creates/restores some necessary registry entries.

    - After Service Pack is installed REBOOT machine.

    When you go into the START MENU>Settings>Control Panel>"Add Remove Programs" and click on "Add/Remove Windows Components" you will get a series of errors - it will tell you what files that are missing.

    These are the (12) files you must have:

    certocm.dll
    certocm.inf
    ins.inf
    licenoc.dll
    licenoc.inf
    ocmri.inf
    rsoptcom.dll
    rsoptcom.inf
    tsoc.dll
    tsoc.inf
    wmsocm.dll
    wmsocm.inf

    You will need to obtain these files either from an existing W2K Server installation or from the 2000 Server install CD.

    Copy all .inf files to the Windows\Inf directory
    Copy all .dll files to the System32\Setup directory

    If this is done correctly then when you run the Add/Remove component it will list (2) Terminal Services options

    You will still need to have either a W2K Server or Advanced Server CD to actually install the remaining Terminal Server files (apart from the ones above), these are located in a compressed format on the \I386 directory (TSC.001) on the CD (about 14MB)


    Once you verify that Terminal Services is running and installed, you can revert the machine to Professional (or keep it at Server if you find it useful).
    Seeing a 2K professional machine running multiple Terminal Services sessions without protest is a clear indication that the Server vs. Workstation distinction is only for market segmentation and maximizing profit, not any technical/support reason.
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