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5% of All Web Traffic Unsafe
OnFour writes "The MIT-backed startup behind SiteAdvisor has slapped a red "X" warning label on approximately 5 percent of all Web traffic and warned that there are roughly one billion monthly visits to Web pages that aren't safe for surfing. About 2 percent of all Web traffic was given the "yellow" caution rating." A more general SiteAdvisor blog entry overview was covered earlier on Slashdot.
"roughly one billion monthly visits to Web pages " :(
OK, and the "one billion monthly visits" is clickable?
Dear god does anyone else think that is the epitomy of where you could actually post tubgirl or worse and have it not only be on topic, but insightful?
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crap, I think I just justified tubgirl as insightful or interesting.
I quit.
(and no, there are NO LINKS in this comment, if for no other reason than I might end up drunk and click on one of them)
I am 31337 or something.
Do they just mean safe for IE. At least, that is what I gather from TFA. Who cares? Just use Firefox, Mozilla, Opera, or Lynx.
---- "XML is like violence. If it doesn't fix the problem, you aren't using enough."
For that matter, it's like the people feeding mega-doses of different things to lab rats that have been bred to be suseptable to cancer, then announcing that Yet Another Chemical Causes Cancer. You never hear about things that they couldn't manage to "prove" a carcinogen, any more than you're ever told that there's no evidence their rat experiments are relevant to humans. Sorry about the bit of a rant, there, but I do think those "researchers" need to be taken down a peg and forced to demonstrate a relationship between what they're doing and what happens in a human being.
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Many years ago on the com-priv mailing list, I posted a message "announcing" the creation of a company which would sit on your network, watching the sites that your users visited. When a "bad" site was visited, it would forge a TCP RST to close down the connection. Various categories of badness were proposed, with varying fees. I thought "This is an idea too stupid for words, so I'll put it into words so everyone can see how stupid it is." Well, I had several parties contact me for availability and pricing, because they WANTED to censor their users' browsing. I was so naive.
-russ
Don't piss off The Angry Economist
I have a brother who is marred and has 2 kids between the ages of 12 and 15. Those kids killed his last computer, unwittingly installing all sorts of nonsense when they downloaded games and graphics...
Wow, wouldn't it be great if some OS allowed people to give their kids accounts with limited rights? You know so they couldn't screw up an entire install? I don't mean like what BSD, Linux or Mac can do.
Oh wait, yes I do.
What are you eating? isItVeg?.
It took them a year to do a million websites. They're taking the software downloads the sites offer and scanning them. With the shell game of staying ahead of the malware definitions, the period of time in which a site's evaluation is out of date, etc. you're going to have some obsolete data. Not that that in and of itself is vastly different from any other security measure, but really try to put yourself in j6p's shoes:
You go to a site. Ten minutes ago, the site you were on was issued a green checkmark, five minutes ago the bad guys running the site swapped out the good files for the bad, and you get an Active X popup (I said you're j6p!!). You can't trust the green checkmark. You go to a site that has a message board where some a-hole posted a link to malware, triggering a red X. They've caught it, banned him, pulled the link, and gotten the green checkmark back. But you saw the red X; and the person who's going to rip you a new one if he has to spend his weekend de-fouling your PC again told you that the red X should be a skull and crossbones and to stay the hell away from any site where you ever saw one. Now you don't know what to make of the red X.
What about a site that hasn't been scanned yet? Or whose updates have been detected but not audited? A question mark? Nothing? How long until it's just another thing the average user doesn't pay attention to? You can't have an up-to-the-millisecond read on the entire web, and you don't have any margin of error where your security mechanism is the end user knowing what to think.
Finally modding someone offtopic when they rant about what "Begging the Question" means: priceless.
Wow, wouldn't it be great if some OS allowed people to give their kids accounts with limited rights? You know so they couldn't screw up an entire install? I don't mean like what BSD, Linux or Mac can do.
Oh wait, yes I do.
Yes, and how does one "kill" a computer? The worst that you can do is corrupt your OS and force a reinstall. The grandparent post sounds like blatant astroturfing for SiteAdvisor.
In fact, the whole story does.
Are they hoping to make money off of hyping "unsafe websites" like Norton and McAfee have with "unsafe programs"?
That's about the same percentage of dangerous traffic that's on the road on Friday and Saturday nights.
That's what I try to teach my customers. I install Firefox on all boxes that don't use AOhell, and try to get those to use a real ISP. I inform them that all pop-ups are evil and if you click on one you will get spyware! I also explain that all toolbars are a wast of resources, and every one (except yawhore, and googoo) are spyware. There may be others that are acceptable but I don't care or have time to check (I'm a tech in a white box store and spend 85% + of my time cleaning crapware off of boxes). I also tell them to avoid all banners with all the flashing or strobe type colors that are just annoying, since most of them lead to crap sites anyway. Yes these are almost draconian measures, but they work.
The cool thing? Most of my customers are learning, I only seem to be getting about 10% coming back for a repeat cleanup, a year ago it was over 30%.
Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
In reality, for the unsuspecting user, there is hardly a site that is safe. Almost every site uses tracking cookies that violates the original security model that only an original site will acess data about the sesion. If the 12o7 cookie exists at amazon and the fly-by-night-shady-blogger, one must assume that the safety of your amazom stored credit card informaiton is compromised. The yahoo or google toolbar should be safe, but it is now suspected that the google toolbar is collecting personal web traffic, and gathering information that might be corporate sensitive. The 5% number might represent the truly malignant websites, but those are not the problem. As in nature, the truely malignant parasites will have a hard time surviving, as many will kill the host before they spread. It is the subtle parasites, the other 95%, that will continue to cause problems if we do not educate users to wash thier hands and avoid unprotected sex. In other words, do not accept all cookies and do not faoll for a horse or a rabbit, no matte how pretty it might look.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
They are using PestPatrol's database, from way before CA bought PestPatrol. It's woefully inaccurate and out of date. SiteAdvisor is an interesting idea, but worthless in its current form.
This is great for those folks that refuse to give up Internet Exploiter(TM)(Like my Mom,Unfortunatly) Or click yes to everything--http://www.webattack.com/get/sandboxie .html
Basically I just install all their browsers into the sandbox then when they bring it back to be cleaned I can just delete the sandbox folder after backing up their bookmarks.It really does help with the ActiveX/Toolbar style crap that so many people fall for.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
I have a brother who is marred and has 2 kids between the ages of 12 and 15. Those kids killed his last computer, unwittingly installing all sorts of nonsense when they downloaded games and graphics. That was on a Windows 98 machine which, as hard as I tried, simply could not secure or revive from all of the trojan horses and malware that had infected it.
Wayne_Knight (958917)
this sounds familiar...
from here:
I have a brother who is marred and has 2 kids between the ages of 12-15. Those kids killed his last computer, unwittingly installing all sorts of nonsense when they downloaded games and graphics. That was on a Win98 SP2 machine which, as hard as I tried, I simply could not secure or revive from all of the trojans and malware that had infected it.
tokengeekgrrl (105602)
I am calling astroturf on these shens.
1. Get story posted on slashdot
2. ???
3. Profit!!!
step 2? Its actually post a dupe of the story and astroturf the comments section.