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No 3G for HP Until 2007

An anonymous reader writes to tell us CNet is reporting that HP will not be bringing 3G support to any of their new 'smart phones' until at least 2007. From the article: "[HP] cites the costs associated with the service, coupled with the fact that 3G's killer app -- TV and video streaming -- isn't yet viable on mobile phones as the primary reasons for its decision. '3G is still only occupying 3% of the world pie,' HP's Vice-President for Consumer Products and Mobile Business Group in the Asia-Pacific region, Chin-Teik SEE, told CNET.com.au at the company's 'magical mobility launch' event in Hong Kong last week."

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  1. If all parties by MarkNijhof · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are going to think like that 3G will never happen :)

    -Mark

  2. The logical application of 3G bandwidth by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is the logical application of 3G bandwidth really streaming video? Maybe if you are the operator charging per packet!

    The logical application of higher bandwidth on mobile phones is just an extension of current phone capabilities. Namely, increased mail functionality like graphics and graphical icons, and music downloads. In the business sphere, it makes sense to utilize that bandwidth for file transfers from one mobile phone to another.

    But streaming video wasn't ever really high on anyone's list of MUST HAVE functionality. At least not on the user side.

    1. Re:The logical application of 3G bandwidth by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But streaming video wasn't ever really high on anyone's list of MUST HAVE functionality.

      No, but the problem for the telcos is how to soak up that bandwidth and keep charging for it. If you provide a big enough pipe at a price affordable for video, you're also providing enough of a pipe for the VOIP that's going to undercut your high-margin call charges.

      --
      "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
  3. Is anyone actually using tv phone functionality? by xtal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I see ads for this everywhere, but I've never seen ANYONE making use of this service. I don't even know when I would if I wanted to. My phone is for talking to people with and maybe SMS. I don't use the internet functionality because the rates are insane.

    Telcos don't get it. Provide bandwidth, and let people build services that run on that bandwidth. Being greedy with the apps.. means you get to put a great big 3G waste of money in your pipe (and smoke it).

    --
    ..don't panic
  4. US Cellphone system nearly irrelevant anyway by mauriceh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The US cellphone market ( and most of the Canadian one as well) is now so irrelevant to the world market, that it really does not matter.

    CDMA, TDMA, but not GSM for the most part.

    Sure, we have a couple of GSM providers, but on an alien frequency (1900).
    Add to that the greed of the N. American phone and cellphone providers, and not much in the way of progress is likely to happen here.

    So, 3G will slowly push ahead in Asia, where all the tech now is, Europe will follow, and that's all folks.

    In the meantime tech like WIMAX will progress, people will soon have portables using that or similar, VoIP on wireless will take off, and pretty soon cell phones as a separate device for talking (only) will become obsolete.

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    Maurice W. Hilarius Voice: (778) 347-9907
    1. Re:US Cellphone system nearly irrelevant anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The US cellphone market ( and most of the Canadian one as well) is now so irrelevant to the world market, that it really does not matter.

      CDMA, TDMA, but not GSM for the most part.
      1996 just called, they want your critique of the North American cellular market back.
  5. ugh by Ex+Machina · · Score: 3, Insightful
    3G's killer app -- TV and video streaming

    Do these morons really think I want to pay them to watch 160x120 videos of the black eyed peas on my phone? This is not the killer app you are looking for!

  6. Re:Is anyone actually using tv phone functionality by finnif · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Telcos don't get it. Provide bandwidth, and let people build services that run on that bandwidth.

    No, actually they do get it. A one way ticket to obsolescence is just being a bandwidth provider. Ask any mid-level dialup ISP from the 90s how they're doing today now that Comcast and SBC have deployed broadband. Where do you think wireless providers will be if someone actually deploys wi-fi throughout a city, or a new technology comes along that provides 5mbit download speeds anywhere?

    That's why every wireless provider... scratch that... every media provider of any kind... is trying to bring added value content to the consumer. Ringtones, portable video, SMS: these are all services desperately trying to avoid being just another bandwidth provider. What do you think all of those DSL deals with Yahoo, or Comcast ON-Demand is all about? Bandwidth always gets cheaper until it becomes commoditized. Telcos have to stay ahead of that curve and becomes content providers. So when someone else says they can get a faster line than Comcast to your house, you'll say "Aww, but it doesn't have On-Demand?"

    THAT is the point of VCast and every other lame attempt to avoid becoming just pure bandwidth providers.