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Japan's Top 100 Games

Next Generation has a piece with the Top 100 Games of All Time, as voted by the nation of Japan. From the article: "1. Final Fantasy X (2001) 2. Final Fantasy VII (1997) 3. Dragon Quest III (1988) 4. Dragon Quest VIII (2004) 5. Machi (1998) 6. Final Fantasy IV (1991) 7. Tactics Ogre (1995) 8. Final Fantasy III (1990) 9. Dragon Quest VII (2000) 10. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998)"

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  1. 4 of the top ten are Final Fantasy? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 4, Funny
    What was the question worded like?
    • Finally, what was your favorite fantasy game of all time? (Don't forget to add which sequel if your answer is "Final Fantasy"!)
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    1. Re:4 of the top ten are Final Fantasy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The entire thing reads like a freaking Square-Enix ad. When you remember that DragonQuest (3 of the top 10 slots) is also a Square-Enix game, you get seven out of the top 10 being Square-Enix games.

      I'm thinking this was a poll conducted by Square-Enix to the members of the Square-Enix Fan-Club. The only Final Fantasy game that doesn't appear on the list is Final Fantasy XI - which is good, because it's widely considered one of the worst MMORPGs of all times!

    2. Re:4 of the top ten are Final Fantasy? by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 2, Informative

      With the exception of Civilization, none of the games you mentioned feature the min-maxxing gameplay that the readership of Famitsu tends to go gaga over.

    3. Re:4 of the top ten are Final Fantasy? by tukkayoot · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I saw this on Kotaku, and thought it was pretty hilarious. I can't understand how Dragon Quest III is rated above the Ocarina of Time. That particular iteration of Dragon Quest was not particularly outstanding, from what I've played of it ... it's immediate successor, Dragon Quest IV was a lot better, IMO, but neither come close to touching the Ocarina of Time, which was a fresh, exciting game at the time of its release and screamed quality and fun from beginning to end.

      Of course, you have to keep in mind that this a "player's choice" poll, not a list composed by critics or game developers, so it's not surprising to see so much fanboy influence. Still, it leads me to believe that Famitsu readers must be completely out of their gourd to be so utterly in love with menu-driven third person, turn-based RPG combat and cliched storylines to the exclusive of almost anything else.

    4. Re:4 of the top ten are Final Fantasy? by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's because the point of Zelda is to ignore the clicheed story and enjoy the gameplay while the point of Final Fantasy is to ignore the clicheed gameplay and enjoy the (equally clicheed) story.

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  2. Not again... by lightspawn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    * my favorite isn't on the list, so it can't be "right"!
    * the list is biased toward older / newer / console / PC / handheld / RPG / arcade / puzzle games!
    * the list doesn't mean anything, lists like this never do (of course they don't)
    * oh man, I completely forgot that game, that was fun.

    Lists like that are compiled regularly. It's hardly news, but hey, if it reminds you of a game you haven't played in years or lets you know of a gem you'd never have known about otherwise...

  3. No Katamari Damacy? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Funny

    No Katamari listed in the top 100 Japanese games? Outrageous! We are most displeased!

    Where was cousin Ace? Playing Animal Crossing (#43)?
    We have no idea what you are talking about.

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  4. Easy by Programmer_In_Traini · · Score: 2, Informative

    While we played Doom I & II, Quake, Heretic, Wolfenstein, Unreal

    they played Final Fantasy, Zelda, Dragon Quest

    its a culture thing.

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  5. It's obvious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The real winners here are Roman Numerals.

  6. Yet another example of east-west differences by NetDanzr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This list is yet another good example of east-west differences in gaming. If you look at the list, the biggest group are games that are heavily story-driven, but which don't give the player too much freedom. In fact, I found only one typical Western game on the list, Wizardry, which placed 66th. This doesn't mean that eastern gaming culture is bad; it's just different. However, with the proliferation of Japanese consoles in the US, resulting in larger numbers of Japanese games here, the eastern culture seems to take over the western one in gaming, at least on store shelves. It is no wonder then that whenever a western-style RPG is released (Arx Fatalis, Gothic, Morrowind), it creates a very fierce following of people who are starved for more freedom in their games.

  7. Re:Animal Crossing 43, Pokemon 51 ... slate voting by rohlfinator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know that it's an age problem necessarily, but I'm sure Famitsu's market is a fairly limited demographic.

    If the readers of say, PC Gamer (in the US) were to be polled with the same question, their list would likely be dominated by FPSes and strategy games, probably ignoring less "hardcore" games like The Sims. Likewise, if you were to survey the readers of a European Nintendo mag, they'd probably favor Nintendo games over any others.

    This isn't a case of ballot stuffing; it's just a matter of demographics... the people who read Famitsu tend to favor traditional, Japanese RPGs. In reality, there are Yu-Gi-Oh games that have outsold some of those top-ranking FF titles, so clearly this list isn't a very accurate representation of game popularity.

  8. Reflection of taste differences by Swifti · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think this list gets better recognition and merit than the typical lists compiled by 1Up, Gamespy, or GameSpot due to the fact that this is data is a reflection of a market that isn't the English-speaking Western market that we're a part of.

    Just take a look at that list. Most of the games listed are role-playing games and/or games developed by Japanese developers. This data tells us numerous things about the electronic gaming market in Japan and certainly reflects attudinal differences between us and them. They don't like action games as much as we do, they certainly don't like first person shooters as much as we do, a market loyalty or dynasty appears to exist with Japanese developers as they do with foreign developers, and they really seem to like their RPGs.

    It certainly explains why the X-Box 360 or PC gaming, both having strong Western predilections, isn't doing as well in Japan as they are across the Pacific...

  9. Re:I hate to say it by RobertB-DC · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hentai RPGs have zero gameplay. Most of them don't even care if you can't read Japanese, just keep clicking until you see the scene you want. If they'd put more work into it, they could easily sell an English version.

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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  10. My list of 10 best japanese games. by master_p · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1. PacMan: best all-around game, for all ages and sexes (especially Ms Pacman), and its gameplay (or parts of it) still lives in many modern games.
    2. Legend of Zelda:best action RPG ever; I had so much fun with this game!
    3. Outrun: best and most atmospheric racer ever. It helped revived arcades back in '86. Best arcade console (a mini Ferrari moving according to the action on the screen helped by hydraulics). Best soundtrack for racing games ever (Magical Sound Shower).
    4. R-Type: best shoot-em-up ever. An audio-visual experience still not matched yet: there are shoot-em-ups with better graphics, or better sound, or more gameplay, but not with better graphics/sound/gameplay in the same game!
    5. Donkey Kong: it introduced Mario and Donkey Kong.
    6. Bubble Bobble: one of the best arcade games ever; number 1 for gameplay ideas. One of the most addictive games ever.
    7. Arkanoid: best bat-and-ball game ever. No matter how many OpenGL polygons modern games throw at it, Arkanoid is never matched: the metallic hypnotic ping-pong sound can not easily be forgotten.
    8. Metal Gear: First stealth game, with lots of important ideas. Released on MSX.
    9. Space Invaders: most important game ever released: it kickstarted the video game industry.
    10. 1942: Father of all vertical shoot-em-ups. Lot's of fun.