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Java Virtualization for Server Consolidation

Steve Wilson writes "Cassatt Corporation has released new software that enables administrators with large J2EE farms to much more efficiently use their resources. In order to do this, it leverages the virtualization capabilities inherent in the JVM to create a single shared pool of hardware resources which which all J2EE applications can draw."

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  1. 100k by FatherOfONe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    100k for 40 servers. 100k will buy quite a bit of hardware. It would be better if they showed how they have saved companies money, and not just thrown out some stats, like they have seen a consolidation of 5 servers down to 1.

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  2. Using Java's Built in VM Functionality == $$$ by theJML · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cassatt's control software costs about $100,000 for a 40-server pool. Adding the Web Automation Module increases the cost by about $5,000 per server, the company said.
    Ok, so I can run java apps that save me lots of money on server hardware... for $100,000. unless I want to spend an extra $5,000 per server (bringing the total up to $300,000). So how is this going to save me money? I mean, I could by a whole bunch of 1U Dell P4 servers each valued at about $2k a piece. 40 of those would be only 80 grand. Now, I'm pretty sure that I pay my adminstrators so they can make an informed decision on grouping two or three services on a machine where it makes sense (like dns resolution and dhcp serving) and instantly save me a few machines there. And how many of my mission critical resource poor services are executed in Java? This seems like a huge waste of money to me. Besides how hard could this have been to come up with.. I mean, Java is running IN A VM in the first place. run an identical VM on another machine, add a little code to allow transfering of processes between VMs and you've got it. I'm sure it's got some tricky aspects, but is it that hard that it'll cost $300,000 to do? Something's fishy here...

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  3. ARGH LEVERAGES by MarkPNeyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PLEASE stop using that word. It's not right.

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  4. Re:VMWare rocks by n0-0p · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, you got an insightful mod when you didn't even understand the problem. The irony is overwhelming. Anyway, this really addresses a completely different problem than VMWare. It fits much more into the realm of distributed computing than virtualization. However, the JVM provides a *virtualized* platform that makes it easy to *distribute* the processing efficiently.

    So, back to the VMWare thing, yes I suppose you could hack a cluster of ESX servers up to do this. Of course you would have all of the overhead that VMWare needs to introduce. This includes the host OS, world switch and priveleged instruction emulation overhead, guest os, and application image. On top of that, you would have to shovel images around your cluster to make it work so bandwidth would be a nuisance. You would also be severely limited in how dynamically you could reassign resources, given the requirements of the guest OS. And you would of course be restricted to x86 architectures, which may or may not be an issue.

    So you could do it, but boy would it be dumb.

  5. Cheap hardware ain't cheap by WilsonSD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm so glad you asked this. Hardware is cheap to buy, but really expensive to run and maintain. Thing about all the costs:

    Power (which Google now says costs them more than hardware)
    A/C
    Administration
    Maintainance
    Support
    Software licenses (and J2EE servers like BEA aren't cheap)

    We did an analysis with one of our customers on their costs. Each box (for a 2 CPU linux box) costs over $100,000 during it's three-year lifetime.

    Steve Wilson
    Cassatt Corporation

  6. Re:If they... by WilsonSD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are no APIs for the system, and you don't have to modify your code to work with it. If it runs in Weblogic (other app servers coming soon) then it will work with Cassatt. The only changes are to the deployment descriptors and Cassatt makes those changes for you automatically.

    -Steve

    Steve Wilson
    Cassatt Corporation