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TiVo to Let Users Record Shows Via Cellphone

Carl Bialik writes "Verizon Wireless plans to offer a new service called TiVo Mobile that will allow its customers who also have TiVos in their homes to schedule TV shows for recording when they are on the go, the Wall Street Journal reports. ' A customer might use the service to impulsively schedule a sitcom for recording after the show is recommended by a friend at a party,' says the WSJ, adding, 'Verizon Wireless executives said the service, to begin this summer, is expected to cost less than $5 a month, in addition to normal cellphone-service charges and TiVo subscriber fees, which are $12.95 a month.'"

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  1. A bit obsessive by RedHatLinux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, are there TV shows that important one needs this service to ensure they don't miss them

    1. Re:A bit obsessive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh come on. With your line of thinking, how many people even actually need cell phones?

      Some scenarios where this feature might come in handy:

      1. You are out with friends and they mention a new show to you.
      2. You are out and realize you forgot that your show is on a new night this week - and tonight is the night.
      3. You are out and see an advertisement for a new show. You can write it down and hope you don't forget to enter it in later, or you can just enter it in right now.
      4. You are out with friends and one of them realizes he forgot to record a show he wanted to watch. You can do him a favor.

  2. Where's the advantage? by magicsquid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why should I pay $5 more a month for a service that I already have for free? Why not just go to the Tivo web site on a web-enabled phone and do your remote scheduling there?

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    1. Re:Where's the advantage? by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Insightful
      > Why should I pay $5 more a month for a service that I already have for free? Why not just go to the Tivo web site on a web-enabled phone and do your remote scheduling there?

      Because if you do it that way, Verizon doesn't get $5/month out of you! (Alternate: Because when you signed up for Verizon, they disabled the web-enabled part of your phone when they installed their ugly red user interface and branding onto it, but will re-enable it for $5/month.)

      Oh, wait, you're looking at it from the customer's perspective. Never mind.

    2. Re:Where's the advantage? by WushuJim · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have an even better solution, but not as simple. I can control my ReplayTV and Tivo over WAP access through my cell phone. The WAP is provided by my FreeBSD box via Kannel. I then wrote a webapp that generates mobile pages from the already existing open source webapps: Personal ReplayGuide and Tivoweb. I have been able to schedule recordings via my cell phone for over a year now.

  3. or... don't waste $5 a month by loraksus · · Score: 4, Informative

    And use the tv.yahoo's tivo scheduling.
    Wow... $5 a month?

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  4. MythWeb... by kebes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't want to turn this into a "TiVo versus MythTV" argument, but I think it's worth noting that the MythWeb plugin that comes with MythTV allows you to schedule shows from any browser, anywhere. Because MythTV runs on a Linux box, you get a webserver and fileserver and all that out-of-the-box. So you can log into your Myth from anywhere that has internet, and schedule a show to record, on an impulse. You can even remotely (via SSH) transcode a show, and download it to your local computer for easy viewing.

    There's no reason why you couldn't access your MythTV from any laptop or PDA that has some basic web access. I often, as the summary suggest, record a show on an impulse, when someone mentions it to me. This is an awesome feature that I'm sure TiVo users would love to have. However even at 5$/month it seems overpriced to me. This should be included for free as a "value added" that would encourage people to buy TiVo and and sign up for Verizon.

  5. Japan by gnovos · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Last year in Japan they had a tivo-like device for the cell phone.... Not to record shows at home, though.... To record shows ON the damn phone since they all have sattelite receivers in them now...

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    1. Re:Japan by MrWa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      While this doesn't have Tivo-like features, it does run Linux: P901iTV Some people go too far with their Japanese fetishes but, in general, it is pretty sad how far ahead the Japanese consumer product market. Simply go to any shop in Akihabara or Yodabashi camera and there products years ahead of what is considered new in the U.S. Hell, the free phones in Japan are better than $100-200 models in the US!! The US consumer market is way too slow in adopting new technologies - or even having them available for the bleeding-edge, early adopters to play with! When a bloody $5 per month "service" to let you schedule recording on your Tivo is considered news on a tech-centric website, you know something is wrong.

  6. Re:and orb by krisp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and beyondtv and sagetv and any other pvr software with a web server. all you have to do is point your mobile web broser at it and schedule for free.

    not to mention all of these packages get guide data for free rather than forcing you to lock in to a monthly plan.

    personally i built an htpc and use beyondtv as a replacement to my series 2 tivo because

    a) i want high resolution output
    b) i don't want to pay monthly fees

  7. $5 / Month?!?!? by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can do this for free with MythTV via MythWeb.

    You can also do it for free at tivo.com

    Totally ridiculous.

  8. coincidence? by sedyn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just realized that I got to see an ad for Verizon Wireless early because I saw an ad for Verizon Wireless...

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  9. Even better, just call someone... by Slashdot+Junky · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even better, just call someone that can connect to Tivo's website using a PC. You know, like a parent, spouse, girlfriend, regular friend, kid, etc.

    Why pay to have a cell phone do yet one more thing.

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  10. Mo Money! by SaturnTim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $5 a month for something you will probably use a couple times a year (at most)?
    on top of your verizon plan, on top of the tivo monthly fee, on top of the broadband connection...
    (this won't work if your tivo still works on dial-up)

    Never mind (as 50 other posts mentioned) the free alternatives...

    Just doesn't make financial sense.

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  11. Re:and orb by Romancer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I recently scheduled the oscars to record from a web enabled phone by going to online tivo scheduling.

    WTFITBD?

    The hell I'm going to pay for a specialized app on a phone that has internet access already.

    Standards are there for a reason, if a phone can access normal web pages it can do hundreds of things, if it has a bunch of nickle and dime apps that raises your bill it's a POS and your provider is screwing you.

    If your phone can only view "mobile pages" there are scripts that you can run on your own webserver that'll strip everything but the actual info and serve you that.

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  12. A couple corrections by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can actually do without the service if you don't mind entering all your start and top times by hand.
    This hasn't been true for years; in fact, it stopped being true back in the days of the Series 1. Later Series 1 models and nearly all Series 2 models are doorstops without a TiVo service subscription.

    (Back before TV listings became available online for free, people used to spend $3/month for TV Guide just so they'd known what was on. Same idea, only more advanced.)
    $3 a month for TV Guide? Maybe in 1962. The cover price of TV Guide has been almost $2 for several years now, and I can't count the number of people I knew (my parents included) who just grabbed a Guide at the checkstand every week during grocery shopping.

    Up until TV Guide quit doing TV listings, TiVo was pretty price competitive with newsstand purchase of weekly issues.

    What bugs me is that they no longer allow you to buy lifetime service for a flat fee.
    This is untrue. Lifetime service is still available, and is still $299.

    They also still offer the ability to buy an annual subscription if you prefer.

    Though if you were unlucky (as I was) your TiVo died on you before the 18 months was up!
    If your TiVo dies on you out of warranty and you have a lifetime subscription, you simply send it to TiVo for a standard flat-fee repair. If your unit is repaired, your subscription will keep working when you hook it back up. If your unit is replaced by TiVo, they will transfer the lifetime to the replacement unit. This is not a new policy; it's been active for years.

  13. Dear editor by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Dear editors.

    Please check who is submitting an article before you post it. In this case the article was submitted by a guy using the e-mail "wsjarticles@wsj.com". When the article says "A customer might use the service to impulsively schedule a sitcom for recording after the show is recommended by a friend at a party,' says the WSJ, it's not exactly difficult to put two and two together.

    Slashdot is being used as free PR for companies. People have started to complain about this and yet no one seems to take a bit of notice.

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  14. Nickel and Dimed... by EMIce · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...for just a few ip packets. Uhh, I hope the way Verizon runs their cellular business is not an indication of how they'll treat us under tiered internet, but who am I kidding?

    Anyone who has compared developing applications for Verizon phones vs. Sprint/Nextel vs. Cingular knows that Verizon is simply not an option unless you have $$$ and enough clout to negotiate access. No feature that Verizon thinks they can get an extra fee for is left unlocked. DRM is built in and all applications are signed so as to grant just the permissions that have been paid for.

    Compare this to Cingular and international gsm providers, who have no DRM and allow access to the phone hardware (bluetooth, gps, ringtones, other content)and the network via java. You own the hardware, you pay for network access, and use it as you will. No getting billed for every single permutation of features like with this Tivo app.

    Verizon considers each application a billable "feature" in and of itself, while more open providers bill for network access and leave applications to open hardware and software.

    The later architecture allows anyone to get in on the game, while the former restricts access to those that pay up. You can bet that development companies who pony up for access will need to make a return asap, and so will be pushed towards making applications that maximize return quickly. This will only lead to fewer experimental ideas attempted, and fewer niche applications being developed.

    If \.'ers want to support more open cell standards I'd suggest looking into Cingular, who at first advertised themselves years ago as "the company the support self expression" - of course no one got it. I hear their network has gotten much wider since the AT&T merger so they are worth a shot.

  15. Re:TiVo users are suckers by horatio · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a sucker? No. Like I've said in other stories where this inevitably comes up, I pay not to have to deal with the bullshit. I fight with computers every day because it is my job, and because it is a hobby. Yet, I don't want to have to mess with kernels or libraries or dependencies or drivers or modules or the latest bug in mythTV or lousy hardware or whatever other problem there might be with running a typical PC. MythTV has its uses, and some people swear by it. Maybe you like it when your video card craps out on you. Maybe you're the type that walks/swims 8 miles to work instead of paying the bridge toll (haha sucker - I live under my desk!). I have no idea.

    I pay 13$/month because I don't want to screw with my television (+DVR), I just want it to work. TiVo obviously provides me a service for this - the most obvious being the guide data. It is a small price to pay, imho, for the (nearly) worry-free joy that is my TiVo. If the series3 isn't vaporware, I'm all about it.

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