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Maryland Votes To Ban Diebold Voting Machines

vandon writes "Computerworld.com reports: 'The state Maryland House of Delegates this week voted 137-0 to approve a bill prohibiting election officials from using AccuVote-TSx touch-screen systems in 2006 primary and general elections. The legislation calls for the state to lease paper-based optical-scan systems for this year's votes. State Delegate Anne Healey estimated the leasing cost at $12.5 million to $16 million for the two elections.'"

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  1. Hope it doesn't rain.... by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there no room for tampering with paper ballots? Have you ever taken a fillin the bubble test?
    What about the SAT being all screwed up?
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/03/10/sat.scorin g.mistake.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest
    Rain blamed for SAT scoring error
    (AP) -- Blame it on the rain. The company that scans the answer sheets for the SAT college entrance exam said Thursday that wet weather may have damaged 4,000 tests that were given the wrong scores.
    Maybe it is because I live in Ohio, and am tired of Diebold being a whipping boy- but seriously- Is there a bigger potential for fraud with an electronic machine? There has always been bvote fraud, since long before the advent of electronic voting.... With a punch card I get no reciept, I just hope that after I put it in the box, it ends up being counted....

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    1. Re:Hope it doesn't rain.... by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But many states have laws saying that a vote recount can _only_ be done if the votes are within 1-2 percentage points. So they can rig the machines to make sure it's 3 or 4% in their candidates favour and any recount would be illegal.. and your paper receipt is hopelessly lost in the void.

    2. Re:Hope it doesn't rain.... by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      But many states have laws saying that a vote recount can _only_ be done if the votes are within 1-2 percentage points. So they can rig the machines to make sure it's 3 or 4% in their candidates favour and any recount would be illegal.. and your paper receipt is hopelessly lost in the void.
      In Washington State, any candidate or party officer can request a recount as long as they come up with the money to pay for the recount ($400,000 to $700,000 for a statewide race).

      This is a good countermeasure against massive fraud - as long as there is a paper trail to recount. Hopefully other states have a similar provision in the election laws - be wary if your state is trying to get rid of this provision.

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    3. Re:Hope it doesn't rain.... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The list goes on and on.

      There's plenty of statistical data about failure rates of paper voting systems. In Australia, errors in manual vote counting ran at about 100 errors per 80,000 votes counted.

      An open source electronic voting system was developed and tested at state elections, and independant audits showed it was accurate. http://www.wired.com/news/ebiz/0,1272,61045,00.htm l Being open source, it is available to the US, if you could get around the NIH syndrome.

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  2. password in source code by demon411 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this guy at my company who works on information security found the key hard coded in the diebold source code. source code which he found online. for those that don't know about cryptography, this is bad.
    He gave a talk about it last year and advocated a paper ballets and optical scanners as others have.

  3. Interesting Note on Main Diebold Lobbyist ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Diebold's main lobbyist, Harris Miller, is running for Senate in Virginia.
    Yes, it's the same guy that crushed Cesar Chavez's union movement in California and lobbied successfully for multiple increases in the guest worker H-1B program as chief lobbyist for the Microsoft sponsored ITAA (itaa.org).

    What cracks me up is ... (get this) ... he's running as a Democrat.

    from cio.com ...


    The vendor community doesn't like it. "We oppose the idea of a voter-verified paper trail," says Harris Miller, president of the trade group Information Technology Association of America. Introducing paper into the mix, he says, defeats the improved efficiency and reliability e-voting promises.

    from zazona.com ...

    Harris Miller, the president of ITAA, worked as a lobbyist/consultant for California agribusiness in the late 1980s. Miller's first big client was the National Council of Agricultural Employers, a group of large growers who use migrant and illegal alien workers. [20]

    His firm helped farmers to bring in "temporary" agricultural workers from Mexico. These farmers wanted to undercut gains that Cesar Chavez and UFW had made. This boosted the profits of Miller's agribusiness clients. Harris painted such pictures as "fields full of crops, just lying there, rotting in the sun because of the 'crisis' of a 'shortage' of farm workers." This was a prelude to using the same strategies for an organization that Harris founded in the late 1980s, the ITAA, which is a lobbying organization that represents "high tech" firms. He merely substituted the category of scientist and engineer that was in highest demand for the agricultural worker. He has become very wealthy from the new "high-tech bracero" program.

    A spokesman for the Farmworker Justice Fund, Inc. said "he [Harris Miller] was a lobbyist/consultant to the growers and was very active for years on the agricultural guest worker legislation. "

    Miller said that critics who deny there's a high tech labor shortage probably also think that the world is flat.[26] We can be thankful that this scofflaw didn't accuse us of believing in the Tooth Fairy.

  4. Re:Why voting *machines*? by Gid1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Agreed, although I'd point out that it's usually done before the civil servants get into work the next day!

    For the foreign-types here, the UK system goes something like this (for a General Election, which decides the Prime Minister, all the MPs, etc.):

    1. Polls open in the morning, usually on a Thursday.
    2. Polls close at 10pm countrywide.
    3. Seconds later, the media start announcing what their exit polls say: that way, the exit polls don't affect the result.
    4. Votes start getting counted by hand immediately.
    5. The first results are announced by 11pm.
    6. Enough results for the winner to declare victory are usually in by 3 or 4am.
    7. Rather than hanging outside with a transition team for a few months waiting for inauguration, the new guy (if there is one) becomes Prime Minister, moves into 10 Downing Street and starts work the next day.
    8. ...
    9. Profit!

    (more details)

    Fast enough? It's a slick, quick, accurate, well-practised procedure compared to the total chaos, corruption and confusion that is Election Day in the US.

    Okay, there are far fewer boxes on the UK form, as the posts of assistant dog catcher, etc. aren't directly elected. Even so, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with a paper system. Oh, and no incomplete arrows, butterfly ballots, instructions, etc. A bunch of names with boxes. Put an "X" in the box next to the guy you want.

    I personally wouldn't have a problem with an optical scanner being used with hand recounts done only if the result is within the margin of error. Follow up with a leisurely hand count for statistical purposes at a later date. A hand count isn't going to take *that* long if it's resourced correctly, and accuracy is worth the wait. In the case of the UK it would just mean we'd have to wait until after the weekend to find out who's taking us to war.

    I also voted in Riverside County, CA last time around, and the ballot I was posted was pretty straightforward: well laid out, well described, simple to follow. Fill the little box next to the one you want. Saying that, I've got no proof it was ever counted, not that my vote would have made any difference in Riverside.