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Verizon To Use New Tech With Old Cables

Ant wrote to mention a ZDNet article about a new initive to get modern high-speed net access into homes utilizing old coaxial cable lines. Right now Verizon digs up streets and lays out expensive fiber to get homes online, but new tech may let them accomplish that task for much less hassle and expense. From the article: "Later this year, it plans to use new technology from the Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA) , an industry group that promotes using coaxial cable installed for cable TV to transmit broadband around the home. The organization says that its technology supports speeds up to 270 megabits per second. Because most homes already have coaxial cable installed in several rooms, Verizon can significantly reduce its Fios installation costs by using existing cabling to connect home computers to its broadband service."

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  1. Verizon? by Morky · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll start holding my breath now.

  2. RT..., oh, never mind by fm6 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Verizon is offering broadband over plain old coaxial TV cable? Whoopty-frickin-doo!
    It's a typical Slashdot sloppy headline, but that's no excuse for not reading the submission. It's not just "broadband", it's at speeds competitive with those of fibre.
    1. Re:RT..., oh, never mind by giverson · · Score: 5, Informative

      This isn't even about fiber vs coax, it's about coax vs ethernet. The theory is that the existing coax within the home can be used instead of rolling out new CAT5 like they do now. With this, they still roll out the fiber to the home.

      Now: FIOS->New CAT5
      With this: FIOS->Existing coax

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    2. Re:RT..., oh, never mind by giverson · · Score: 5, Informative

      This service is still based on fiber optics. The fiber optics go to your house. Inside your house it is distributed over coax. This article is about wiring INSIDE THE HOUSE. Therefore it is still FIOS.

      Did no one read the article?

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  3. This may be new to verizon... by OffbeatAdam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    However, in cities like Montreal where houses are very old and almost impossible to run any new cabling, this has been an alternative for years. Without this technology, there would have been almost no broadband outside of cable modem in Montreal, much less the majority of the rest of Canada's old cities. However, as its said in the article, this is not primarily for an internet based usage. This is more related to the features of the new IP-based television services. Even in new houses today to find networking cable near a TV is a shot in the dark, and this technology, even though by no means new, will allow Verizon (and the other Telcos that are providing the same service) to install the services without having to ask the customer to change their entire room configurations around. Since the tech provides enough throughput to stream video, its a perfect solution for something that would otherwise cost a lot of money. The post is misleading though as this really has nothing to do with the wiring outside of the home. MoCA is not made for outside use, its an internal usage, with a host adapter acting as the router for the coaxial lines. Coaxial to ethernet bridge, thats all they are.

  4. Re:Will this anger Time Warner, Comcast, Adelphia? by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Um no? Coax in my house is my coax, the cable co doesn't own it. They may own it up to my house, but once it enters the house, it's all mine.

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  5. Yawn! Nothing to see here. by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's just another ISP corporate "make money without spending it" hoax. You see these once every few years. A major telco/cable conglomerate/backbone operator/ect talks about using some old'n'busted tech to deliver a faster than pie in the sky internet connection. Almost all the initial information is from the marketting dept of the company that is selling the idea (not from engineers or anyone who could really explain how these fabulous data speeds will be accomplished).

    Stock Market laps it up like candy. Thinks Company X is going to become the new King of Content Delivery (because, you KNOW all the company's competitors and going to sit on their hands and have their kiesters handed to them by Company X).

    Then there will be delays of getting the project actually going. Maybe even some slight downplaying of actual speeds of conetnt delivery.

    At some point someone with a PhD in physics or a heavy EE background gets ahold of the actual method of content delivery and point out it simply isn't possible in the real world because of interfereance, older lines than they used in the lab, ect.

    Marketting dept for technology company downplays statement made by PhD/EE. Slashdot crowd made up of people who know WAY too much about the national power grid and enough about radio spectrum to work at the FCC pop up to defend the scientist's statements.

    More backpedaling of speeds for new service. Marketting direction of new tech starts to veer slightly into the "will allow service in areas not currently reachable by standard broadband providers" direction.

    Companies who have not yet publically committed to using tech start to back out. In the others unfortunately, corporate inertia takes over. Whoever greenlighted the project doesn't want to try and back out and look stupid for having wasted plenty of company money at this point.

    New tech has limited rollout, shows to be the flop we knew it was the whole time. You never hear about the new tech in the media again and it becomes one of those fringe technologes only seen in rural regions. Perhaps eventually phased out as traditional broadband service (Cable/DSL) are pushed into the region.

    A few years pass and major Telcos/Cablecos grouse about the cost of last mile hookups and getting ot that last few % of homes in the middle of nowhere. Stock is tanking on high network infastructure costs gobbling revenue.

    But then a company no one's ever heard of pops up with the idea of...

  6. Re:pushing cable asside... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bingo.

    I think this is the real headline here -- basically what Verizon wants to do is run fiber to your house, to the outside service entrance or basement or whatever, and then unplug the Cable Company's wires from where they attach to the wires inside your house, and plug themselves in there. Then their signal -- instead of the Cable Co.'s -- goes to everyplace you have a cable jack. Which is quite a few places, in many modern homes.

    For you, the customer, they can say "hey, you don't need to run Cat 5 all over your house this way" ... while at the same time, cutting the cable company totally out of the picture.

    I think it's their way of responding to the Cable Companies who are bundling TV+Highspeed Internet+VOIP packages, where they install a VOIP box and plug your analog phone into it, effectively cutting out the phone company.

    Frankly I think it would be better if both companies agreed on a common wiring standard (hey, how about Cat 6 UTP?) and then plugged THAT into whatever network line the customer wanted to use -- whether it was the Cable Co.'s or the Telco's.

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