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Google Goes to Mars

Kynn writes "Google has launched Google Mars, based on the work done by Arizona State University's THEMIS researchers. With an AJAX-driven interface based on Google Maps (and Google Moon), you can search the Red Planet in false-color elevation, black-and-white visual, or infrared. Be sure to check out the so-called Face, the landing sites for Spirit and Opportunity, and the Polar Lander."

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  1. "Happy Face" way better than "The Face" by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Since Kynn told me to check out the "so-called face" on Mars, I was much obliged.

    Unfortunately, after sorting through the list of stories and finding #116 (The Face on Mars) and #118 (The So-Called Face on Mars), I could only make out the mound when looking in infrared. Also confusing is that two different locations are given (40.68N, 9.54W & 40.75N, 9.46W with the latter looking to be the correct location).

    The level of detail you can see is not very high so you really shouldn't check out the face; just visit one of the above websites.

    Instead of that boring face, check out The Happy Face Crater (#117 in the list of stories). Now that is one content crater. Put that image in tie-dye relief colors, screen it on a t-shirt and you've got one product that will sell to millions of hippies world-wide.

    Let me see, if I know my European history, here's the business model :

    1. Send explorer, make him bring back maps with everything named in my language. Check.
    2. Identify resources.
    3. Send less friendly "traders" to said foreign land & requisition land from natives by asking chiefs to sign "treaties" in a language they don't understand (legalese).
    4. Make sure the rest of the world doesn't know what you're doing. Masks of philanthropy or the spread of some major religion work the best.
    5. Do not forget that manpower is a resource and is yours for the taking. The best kind of manpower is free manpower.
    6. Sap land of all resources (Profit!).
    7. Discard ... er, "liberate" colony and allow it to fester in the chaos that you created.

    When I looked at the map, I didn't see any dividing lines or (most importantly) flags. Does anyone want to visit Mars to open trade and represent king eldavojohn?

    I'm reminded of a Cecil Rhodes Quote:
    "I would annex the planets if I could."
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  2. profit! by nan0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    this is tremedously useful.

    this really ought to relieve wall street's anxiety.

    seriously.

    real estate on mars, huge in 120 years. google's wayyyy ahead of the game.

    1. Re:profit! by ROOK*CA · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes on the surface on might conclude that this is a solution looking for a problem until you stop and consider that research organizations and governments have already spent a significant amount of money on planetary mapping missions (Venus, Mars, Titan for example), Google has provisioned the technology to put the results back in the public domain (in an easy to use format), which I would also imagine will drive at least some additional traffic to their site. It seems that they are only adapting the existing google maps technology to new data and not writing the code base from scratch (so it was probably not all that costly).

      One might also conclude as this technology continues to evolve that it will ultimately be saleable (universities for example?) in it's own right, in which case this is all R&D and testing which could thru advertising pay for itself.

      On another note, I'm looking forward to seeing "Google Venus" using the radar mapping data of the Venusian Surface, should be interesting.

  3. Google map of the Universe by wysiwia · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where is the Google map of the Universe? I'd like to go to the "Restaurant at the end of the Universe".

    O. Wyss

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  4. Similar functions for Google Earth? by Peregr1n · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I really like the Elevation/Visible/Infrared options - I wonder if they have similar data for Earth? It would be fascinating to study a city in infrared.
    Of course, they have elevation data for the executable Google Earth but it would also be interesting to see a colour map.

  5. REWARD! by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    A +5 Informative moderation to the first Slashdotter poring over these Mars maps to find out where the hell Beagle II got to!

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    1. Re:REWARD! by LordSnooty · · Score: 5, Informative

      10.6N, 90W, apparently... try clicking "spacecraft" and find Beagle II in the list. +5 moderation on this post by the end of today, thankyou...

  6. It's all a conspiracy by telchine · · Score: 5, Funny

    Notice that if you zoom in Google Moon, you see that the moon is made of cheese. It's a joke you see, the moon isn't really made of cheese. However, if you zoom in on Google Mars, you don't see little green men. Don't you think that's suspicious? Surely if it were untrue, Google would have included it. Therefore we have conclusive evidence that Mars is full of little green men!!! The martian govenment are clearly colluding with Google to censor the Google Mars results!

    1. Re:It's all a conspiracy by dpilot · · Score: 2, Funny

      At the zoom settings Google has, you can't even see Prospero's heads, let alone the zeks.

      (Just finished Dan Simmon's "Illium" and "Olympos".)

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  7. Hooray! by babbling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Time to play spot the martian!

    You know, as much as humans have screwed up the Earth, we've also made it interesting. I find the architecture and placement of buildings/roads/other man-made monuments to be the most interesting things on Google Maps. Google Moon is rather boring in comparison.

  8. What I want to know by LordSnooty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The "elevation" view shows a range of elevations; 21km to -9km or roundabouts. What I want to know, is how do you define "sea level" on Mars? What is the elevation above or below measured against?

    1. Re:What I want to know by Bamfarooni · · Score: 5, Informative

      From wikipedia:

      Zero elevation: Since Mars has no oceans and hence no 'sea level', a zero-elevation surface or mean gravity surface must be selected. The datum for Mars is defined by the fourth-degree and fourth-order spherical harmonic gravity field, with the zero altitude defined by the 610.5 Pa (6.105 mbar) atmospheric pressure surface (approximately 0.6% of Earth's) at a temperature of 273.16 K. This pressure and temperature correspond to the triple point of water.

  9. Or Mars in /3D/ With World Wind by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Already been out for testing .. but here is a blog post on World Wind Mars data.

    Another post on a comparison of how large Olympus Mons is.

    World Wind has many Mars add-ons already... And I have heard that Venus may also show up in 3D with World Wind 1.3.4's release. You can install it as an add-on now sans 3D data.

  10. Found it by terbo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Neat. Finally found my house.

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  11. How about a 3D version like google earth 3D? by (C3PO-Neural_Login) · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I read numerous books as a kid which assured me that by now people should be living on mars, I should be able to holiday on the moon, and that trains would be attached to sky high buildings.. I am feeling rather let down.. At least if a 3D version of google mars and moon was created I could pretend... Why can't i turn around in google earth and navigate towards other planets? Damn it. I'm getting old I can't wait much longer! Modern technology is rather disappointing. I consider mankind primitive until we have halted the aging process, created attractive slave robots with intellect exceeding albert einstein's, and are all wearing designer label virtual reality contact lenses with 500x built in zoom. Ah well I can always dream...

  12. Re:Just wondering... by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's correct, the whole "northern" (There is no magnetic field to speak of, so "north" is a convention only) hemisphere is a basin, probably originally an ocean.

  13. Re:Just wondering... by Bob3141592 · · Score: 2

    There's the geometric center, and then there's the center of mass/center of rotation. If the first case defines the center, you would be correct, and you could simply adjust the center to equalize the elevation in the two hemispheres. In the latter case, that's not an option.

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  14. Re:Somewhere on Mars... by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Landing something at such an altitude could prove problematic - in that it's above a large proportion of the (already very thin) Martian atmosphere. Which means you can't use aerodynamic braking, parachutes and so on to slow down much, instead you'd need some particularly chunky retro-rockets to dispose of the somewhat considerable velocity the probe received when being boosted from Earth orbit.

    A second, slightly deeper alternative could be Valles Marineris - although I read somewhere that it's so huge, if you stood in the middle you wouldn't be able to see the multi-kilometre-high cliffs at the sides, thanks to the curvature of Mars. A lot of the 3D renders and fly-throughs around seem to have pretty extreme vertical exaggeration.

    Martian geology tends to work on a stupendously huge scale, and some of the largest features probably won't look all that great from the ground. Maybe we need to look for the smaller features, which are still far larger than anything similar on Earth - like those giant cliffs I mentioned earlier...

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  15. Marvin? Dejah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where's Marvin and his Illudium Pu-36 explosive space modulator? And how about Dejah Thoris, princess of Helium?

    What kind of bogus Mars search engine is this if it can't find Marvin and Dejah? I bet MSN Mars Search (being rushed out any day now) has them.

  16. Re:Coincidence by kidgenius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Actually, it probably was chosen on purpose to be that way.

  17. I'm disappointed by Nuffsaid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I zoomed all the way in, expecting to see a uniform plain of chocolate snacks. Judging by the colors, the truth is much less palatable.

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  18. Hey! by Sloosh13 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why the hell don't the driving directions work?!?!

  19. Podcast Interview with Noel Gorelick by Kynn · · Score: 3, Informative

    R. Francis Smith of Sturgeon's Law has a podcast interview with Noel Gorelick of Arizona State University -- the guy behind Google Mars -- who discusses the technical and scientific background behind the project. Listen to it here.

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  20. Re:Google's Guide to the Galaxy by generic-man · · Score: 2, Funny
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  21. Homesick by mod-e-rate · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now if Google will add voice calls to mars in thier Gtalk application and support Google account sign up for folks from mars, i can finally contact my folks back home!

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  22. Now wait a minute by CobaltTiger · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is something oddly insulting when Google's maps of a different planet are at a better resolution than what's available of my house. People joke that Iowa is in the middle of nowhere, but this is getting ridiculous.

  23. Great! Now I can ... by whitehatlurker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can now search for craters on Mars. Oh, wait ...

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  24. Google Goes To Middle Earth by topgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    As reported here, you can map your own quest from Hobbiton to Mount Doom! Google Middle Earth. Keep your "Eyes-On-Guard" for this one!

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