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SCO Offers Up The 'SCAMP' Stack

Robert wrote to mention a Computer Business Review Online article about SCO's newest marketing tactic. They're offering their OS as part of a 'SCAMP' stack, ala the more familiar LAMP setup. From the article: "The Lindon, Utah-based Unix vendor has included the open source Apache web server, MySQL database, and PHP and Perl programming languages with its SCO OpenServer operating system since the launch of OpenServer 6 in June 2005. It is now pitching the technologies as a SCAMP stack, placing it squarely up against the Linux-based LAMP stack. SCO claims that Linux contains Unix code donated to the open source operating system in violation of agreements between it and IBM Corp."

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  1. Great name choice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    scamp (skmp)

    n.

    1. A rogue; a rascal.
    2. A mischievous youngster.

    tr.v

    • To perform in a careless superficial way.
  2. Not safe to use by Guspaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It isn't safe to use SCAMP. SCO's corporate future is uncertain. They've based their entire company around a lawsuit that it looks like they will probably lose. It would be a bad idea to use SCAMP for a production system only to have SCO go bankrupt a year or two later.

    Sure, you could convert your SCAMP-based application to LAMP if that happens, but doing that on a production system is very costly due to all the manpower to switch platforms and all the testing to make sure everything works.

    You should ask yourself, what advantages does SCAMP offer over LAMP that warrants the risk of using a platform from a dying company? Are there even any such advantages at all?

    1. Re:Not safe to use by dougmc · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It would be a bad idea to use SCAMP for a production system only to have SCO go bankrupt a year or two later.
      I wouldn't say that.

      SCAMP is short on details, but it sounds like it's exactly the same tools as in LAMP ... but in SCO. Except that you could just drop your application back into Linux, and it would just work there too. You could also move it to FreeBSD, Solaris, OpenBSD ... probably even Windows (most of the LAMP stuff runs under cygwin at least, and there's probably native Windows versions of most of it) and it would even work there with minimal work.

      I don't see much danger here. (Of course, I don't see much benefit in going with SCO in the first place, and so I certainly wouldn't do so.)

      As far as I can tell, it's just a marketing ploy. `Look! We can do the same thing as Linux, but we have a cuter name for it! So use us!'. There's little danger, as your application would probably port right back to a LAMP system with little effort, but there's no benefit either, because a LAMP system would work just as well from the beginning.

  3. wink-and-nod by zero+time+ghost · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somewhere in the dank basement levels far below Darl McBride's office, SCO's only remaining systems engineer is laughing wildly. They actually went with "SCAMP"! The fools!

  4. Pay more for less! by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Informative

    LAMP isn't so much a literal acronym as much as is stands for the concept of all the components being open source. I doubt many people would stop calling it LAMP if it included FreeBSD instead of Linux, nor would replacing MySQL with ProgreSQL suddenly turn it into something completely different. Hell, the P can mean PHP, Perl or Python, and I think even Ruby would count as a LAMP language.

    So how this SCAMP thing is supposed to be anything special, is completely beyond my comprehention.

    However, I for one would be VERY curious as to how SCO is treating all the different FOSS licenses which apply. As far as I know, Apache's license has a mutual patent annihilation clause, and I'm pretty sure the other licenses have their own set of rules too. It would be all too funny if one of them found a reason to sue SCO over their prepackaged SCAMP solution.

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    1. Re:Pay more for less! by shish · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I doubt many people would stop calling it LAMP if it included FreeBSD instead of Linux

      I've seen "FLPR" (FreeBSD / LigHTTPd / Postgres / Ruby (on Rails)) gaining popularity...

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  5. Re:Blah, blah, blah by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Have they become so lawsuit happy that they've forgotten how to compete?

    Yes, actually. As soon as Caldera took over the SCO Unix business, they pretty much dropped any real support for the platform and focused their efforts on sueing Linux. If the reports are to be believed, their distributors were about ready to hang them during the various regional meetings. The SCO corporate reps came across as somewhat anxious about all the bad will towards them, but definitely not apologetic.

    The fallout of these meetings was expected to be that SCO would lose a lot of their local distributors. The results of which would be catastrophic if SCO were actually trying to do business. Now that they realize that their lawsuit has failed, they've found that they've screwed themselves on being able to do business. In addition, they've burned their OSS bridge (guess we won't be seeing an opensco.org, eh?), leaving them with no real edge in the market. So now they're trying to convince businesses that they can provide OSS support without being an OSS supporter.

    My prediction? You're going to be seeing quite a few new Solaris 10/OpenSolaris installations very soon now.

  6. Tcl by Snap+E+Tom · · Score: 4, Funny


    And if they replace the PHP package with Tcl, they can call it SCAT.

    1. Re:Tcl by gbobeck · · Score: 4, Funny

      And if SCO moves to Houston and they replace Apache with IIS, it would then be called SHIT. Oh wait, all SCO products (and SCO, too) already are.

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