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FCC Levies Record Indecency Fine

Carl Bialik from WSJ writes "The FCC proposed a record $3.6 million fine against a single TV show, penalizing CBS and its affiliates for an episode of 'Without a Trace' that suggested a teenage sexual orgy, in the first batch of indecency fines proposed in more than a year, the Wall Street Journal reports. 'Overall, the FCC's action didn't provide a broad sweeping vision for broadcasters about what is appropriate for television,' the WSJ says. 'Notably, the FCC backed away from an effort to impose higher fines by holding all network affiliates responsible for a broadcast, instead of just the stations that had been flagged by a viewer in a complaint.'"

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  1. Re:Huh? by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 4, Informative

    From a Google search:
    "Orgy has several meanings, including "a drunken revelry", a religious rite involving ecstatic dancing, an "unrestrained indulgence" (for example, "an orgy of destruction"), or group sexual activity."

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  2. Link to clip by vkapadia · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/action/withoutatrace/ content.htm

    Here is a link to the clip in question.

    You can decide for yourself if it constitutes a "teenage orgy" or not

  3. What I don't Understand by bloodstar · · Score: 4, Informative
    Barring improper language or nude bodies. How can implying something be considered 'improper'. Personally, I find the mindless violence abhorrant on TV, but I don't see the FCC giving a damn about that.

    South Park had it right: "Just remember what the MPAA says: Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!"

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    1. Re:What I don't Understand by jroysdon · · Score: 3, Informative

      10pm EST & PST on New Years Eve, a night tons of children will be staying up late, for one. Second, it was aired at 9PM CST & MST, which is what I believe got them in the most trouble.

      Here is a story mentioning the New Years and 9pm time info. "... the FCC requires that no indecent programs be aired between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m."

      Here is another story stating the same thing and more details. "The Dec. 31 episode was actually a rerun, but the PTC's complaint the first time around wasn't addressed because it fell under CBS parent Viacom's $3.5 million deal with the FCC to clear up all indecency fines. The PTC's latest complaint is on behalf of viewers in the Central and Mountain time zones, because on the East Coast the show aired at 10 p.m., within the FCC's 10 p.m.-6 a.m. window of relaxed indecency standards."

  4. Re:USA: the land of the free? by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Informative
    Talking of indecency, why don't the authorities shut down the Jerry Springer Show?

    Because people aren't complaining to the FCC about it. If enough people did, they'd get slapped with fines too. It's the squeeky wheel syndrome: the FCC isn't going to do anything on its own, becuause if they're not receiving complaints, viewers must think it's OK.

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  5. Re:Logic go backwards by sqrt(2) · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those are cable channels. They can show whatever they want, as long as the advertisers agree.

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  6. Just saw this by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Informative

    on Bill O'Reilly. The issue here is not that "sex is evil" but that this scene was a violation of the stated rules. This was shown in primetime and not after 10PM. Based on the time of day, there are rules for public broadcasters. So this can turn into a big argument, but those are the rules. If you don't like the rules, then contact your congressman or congresswoman.

    And btw, I love when the southpark movie is shown after 1:30 PM occasionally. There's nothing like hearing, "you butt fucking uncle fucker" to celebrate our nation's tolerance on "foul" language.

  7. The Show Aired at 9:00 by Jazzer_Techie · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think a big part of this fine is because the show in question aired at 9:00 in the Central and Mountain time zones. Considering the climate, I think CBS would have been wise to tone it down or move it to a later slot. I personally am quite anti-censorship. If you don't want to see it, don't watch it. If you don't want your kids to watch it, then you need to take parential initiative. But I watched the clip and read the description, and I can understand where people who are very offended by that type of material are coming from. If I had young kids, I don't think I'd want them stumbling across that, especially if I weren't there to discuss with them the consequences of teenage orgies. Still, I can't say that I agree with the FCCs actions.

  8. Re:Logic go backwards by a_nonamiss · · Score: 4, Informative

    None, at the moment, but that's not stopping them from looking into the possiility. There have been several recent "discussions" in Congress to pass bills that would allow the FCC (not Congress directly, but surely indirectly) to regulate cable content. It's not going to happen any time soon, but I believe that there is groundwork being laid right now.

    http://penusa.org/go/programs/action-alert/241/4/f irst-amendment-updates
    http://www.slate.com/id/2095398

    I know that those articles are kind of dated. With Howard Stern off terrestrial radio, a lot of the censorship talk has quieted a bit in the last year, but I do believe that if this administration had its druthers, you'd see an end to free speech in any broadcast medium, whether it be radio, satellite, cable, or even (and this would be neigh impossible, but "they" would still love to see it) the Internet. It's a scary prospect, but we citiznes just need to keep our eye on the ball and stop getting upset when a boobie accidentally flashes on the screen.

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  9. Re:Which is more indecent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hell, in the old days REAL HUMAN PEOPLE slept in the same bed and didn't have sex. Beds, bedding, and insulation were expensive, space was short, and insulation was poor.

  10. Re:sex is immoral by trippin_efnet · · Score: 4, Informative

    I could not agree more. After watching the teen orgy from Without A Trace, I had to wonder what was so offensive about it. I mean, its a night time drama, aimed at adults. It's not like they had little dancing, beeping, cartoon characters advertising this show. If there were children watching it, they were most likely watching it because the parents were watching.

    I'm sure they were so offended by that clip because they were actually aroused by the idea, and this caused a bit of double think, which turned it into sexual repression. Maybe they were jealous they didnt think of it when they were kids?

    Heres the clip of the 'teen orgy' that won CBS this fine.

    If they decide to block direct linking to the video, go to "parents tv". The link to the video will be in the middle of the page inside the little box saying something like WARNING TAKE CAUTION

    This way, you can not only view the clip, but see how over-the-top upset they were about it. we also have the added benefit of sucking their bandwidth dry.

    Any organization willing to focus so much time trying to decide what I, as an adult, get to watch on TV in the name of protecting THEIR children, makes me a bit nervous.