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Patriot Act Game Pokes Fun at Government

The Miami Herald is reporting that a new game based on Monopoly is taking a crack at Patriot Act and what creator Michael Kabbash describes as the curtailed freedom that has resulted. From the article: "The object of the game is not to amass the most money or real estate, but to be the last player to retain civil liberties. 'I've had people complain to me that when they play, nobody wins. They say "We're all in Guantanamo and nobody has any civil liberties left," he said. 'I'm like "Yeah, that's the point."'"

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  1. This is how you affect the system by Gogl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Have you ever written a representative or senator? Ever gotten anything besides a standard intern-generated-and-stamped form letter? The only people who actually have access to politicians are big donors, and they're generally part of the system and part of the problem in the first place.

    Petitions are nice, but the real way to raise awareness is to go to the people, not the politicians. If a game like this can raise awareness, more power to it. At the very least, it made some newspapers, and now Slashdot.

    So don't dismiss it so quickly: I would say the creator of this game has already done more than you to bring about change. Awareness is important.

    1. Re:This is how you affect the system by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      This assumes that people are generaly unaware that our rights are being trampled, and the consequences of that trampling. I do not see this as true. Conservatives are all over this, and seems to have concluded that it is neccesary to keep us safe, just like the borrowing of billions of dollars from China. Liberals are all over this but just as a way to embarass the president. Most people are just working to keep food on the table.

      This game, IMHO, is just like the concerts of the 60's. A fun way to pass the time. Perhaps a way to deal with the futility of life, but ultimately nothing. I mean, what are most of those hippies doing now. Perhaps filing frivilous lawsuits against the common citizen to protect corporations. Or maybe figuring out new and innovative ways to hide the fact that their products are created by slave labor. You, just trying to make a living so that they buy a new 50K SUV every year, and waste 100 gallons of irreplacable gasoline every month, and eat up 500 dollars worth of electricity to keep thier 20K square foot mansion cool. And teaching that materialism to thier children and grandchildren by buying everything and anything in sight.

      No, the only way to change the world is to change for real. If we are to play games, we should be simulating living that will help us sustain our country, not just whine. This fight in Iraw is no more about democracy and soveriegnty than the arranged revolution in Panama against Colombia. However, it is about national security and energy, and we certainly need energy, and need to insure the supply of energy. It might also be about a continuing line of credit with Japan and China. OTOH, anyone saying that the war is just about "oil" or just about "credit" clearly has their head up their ass, as few of us would be willing to live without either of these, even those of us that whine every day about our diminishing rights. For instance, if one and rich and wealthy, and lives in a place surrounded by people with no food, there are two ways to deal with it. Build a big fence, hire security gaurds, and complain about all you have to do just to protect all your stuff. Or you can admit that you are part of the problem, and stop complaining or share the stuff. And yes I know you deserve the stuff becuase you worked for it, and those lazy people deserve nothing. But then we get back to the difference between the real world and the fantasy that delusional people create to justify their excesses.

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  2. Mourning a genre by Y-Crate · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The glory age of political games has long past, and hardcore fans of the genre such as myself have found ourselves lacking in new titles. You won't find successors to Conflict: Middle East Political Simulator, Hidden Agenda and Shadow President made these days. In the past decade, we've seen only a tiny, tiny handful of games in this genre, one of which is the original Tropico - which if you install the expansion pack, is quite a fun game that lets you examine all kinds of political systems by implementing them yourself without restriction. If you have a Mac, Simbabwe is certainly worth your attention (and it's free!)
    "Welcome to Simbabwe, where the property is already owned and the houses built and you compete to burn and dispossess them. Bounce around the map plundering farms, denying grain silos to opposition supporters and robbing the community chest."
    Political sims are truly the best ways to combine entertainment and education, and I sincerely hope that some indie developers reading this looks over some of the older games I've linked to and is inspired to develop a cross-platform title, as there isn't much to choose from right now.
  3. Re:Yay for wasting time... by UNIX_Meister · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having been one of those who not only has written dozens of letters to many elected officials, protested, mobilized my neighbors, started website communities, and even created two movies. I think that the right thing to do *is* to create a game like this to get the word out. The average person doesn't care about politics, but a game like this is something that will spark interest. The only way to get our rights back is to influence a large number of people. The game will influence a large number of people.

  4. Police State, anyone? by kingsmedley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This game sounds eerily similair to Police State, a game that was developed in the 1960's and inspired by life in the Soviet Union. The goal was a little different - you were trying to become the Soviet Premier (basically, the only person with any rights) while avoiding being denounced by others and sent to Siberia. The game board was even vaguely Monopoly-ish (in appearance, not in play).

    If you're curious, you can see the game here.

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  5. Re:I'd like to add one more thing... by smellsofbikes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My boss calls himself 'fairly conservative' and I call myself a left-wing lunatic. And guess what? on almost every issue that the two of us think really matters right now, we're in 100% agreement: free speech, privacy, civil liberties, and general government-intervention-in-private-life. When we talk about this we decide that we would've been at completely opposite ends of the spectrum when Carter was in office but by now we're almost indistinguishable in what we'll be voting for next time around. Now if only someone that actually encapsulated what we want was going to be running, but that's probably not going to happen.

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  6. Re:Your line of reasoning rang a bell by jackbird · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Unfortunately, the facts are highly secret. However, the fact that those facts are secret (warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detention, gag-order search warrants, secret unaccountable no-fly lists) is extremely disturbing, because I have yet to hear a plausible scenario under which those things are necessary that is congruent with the rule of law under our constitution.

    To answer your question directly, however, right now they are going after the Muslims (if the story of Jose Padilla doesn't outrage you, you need to have another look) and the poor (dismantling welfare/public health/education/affordable housing/manufacturing base, and building jails to handle the results).

  7. Well here are some examples by neatflux · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I have a lot of American-Arab in-laws and they are regularly mistreated as they go from airport to airport. The only time that my wife did not recieve a "random" security check was after she married me and got my American last name.

    My brother in law, who couldnt hurt a fly, has been checked every time and treated rudely and even interrogted. His high school band went on a trip to Washington DC and a tough-looking Secret Service agent asked him if his last name was "some kind of joke."

    My father-in-law regularly runs into the same kind of problems.

    These are merely anecdotal, but this shows that those in official positions sometimes rely on predujices to decide who is "suspicious." This has been true even before the Patriot Act. It just makes me worry that these officials will label someone as suspicious just because of their last name. Why arent they looking for better evidence instead of wasting their time strip searching everyone whose name last name ends with Al- ?

  8. Re:For the love of Pete... by Avast+Yee · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Can someone point out how laws such as the PATRIOT Act are enacted and enforced when they clearly violate the Constitution?

    Article VI. states:

    "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land "


    The framers apparently understood that the purpose of government is to uphold the innate rights and freedoms of mankind. Hamilton said:
    "The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a sun beam in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power."


    Shouldn't all this mean that legislation like the PATRIOT Act is null and void? Maybe elected representatives should be required to study the concepts that the Constitution is derived from. For that matter, maybe these things should be taught in public schools.
  9. Re:For the love of Pete... by Rank_Tyro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Bill of Rights was gutted when that airliner blew up when heading from JFK to Paris. President William Jefferson Clinton signed an anti terrorism bill that completely emasculated the fourth ammendment BEFORE the cause of the disaster was confirmed.

    Your loss of rights has been going on for a long time, it's time you took a look at the past 15 years of legislation passed and WOKE UP!

    Stop blaming one faction of todays government for finally showning you that YOU have no rights anymore. The assault on your civil liberties started two administrations ago.

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  10. Re:I must've missed the memo... by deblau · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From answers.com:
    Civil liberties: Fundamental individual rights, such as freedom of speech and religion, protected by law against unwarranted governmental or other interference.

    Civil rights: The rights belonging to an individual by virtue of citizenship, especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and by subsequent acts of Congress, including civil liberties, due process, equal protection of the laws, and freedom from discrimination.

    In other words, civil liberties correspond to 'natural law' rights, or human rights -- rights you are born with. You have civil liberties in spite of the State. Civil rights are rights granted because of State involvement, like the right to vote.
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  11. Re:Priceless by Kombat · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The problem with your theory is that it requires the cooperation and secrecy of hundreds of people outside the government. Such as:

    • The airline executives themselves who are sacrificing expensive airplanes and pilots
    • The pilots themselves who divert the planes (with passengers and crew) to wherever the government will "dispose" of them. Effectively committing suicide.
    • The air traffic controllers, who must somehow forge and lie about radar tracks and radio conversation records for the flights in question.
    • The demolition experts employed to carry out the precise, deliberate destruction of the WTC towers and Pentagon.
    • Building security at the towers, who must've had to look the other way while these explosives were set up. And then show up for work on the day they knew the buildings would be destroyed. Like the pilots, effectively committing suicide.


    Why would all these people play along, when in many cases, it meant their own deaths? These are not top-secret, covert, CIA/NSA/FBI/military operatives we're talking about. I could maybe buy that those guys would play along and keep quiet in the name of "patriotism." But why the airline execs? The air traffic controllers? Why wouldn't someone have come forward with a story supporting your crazy assertions?
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