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Former Hacker Irks Microsoft in EU Dispute

Carl Bialik from WSJ writes "The Wall Street Journal profiles Neil Barrett, 'a former computer hacker who once infiltrated the system controlling a telescope at a Hawaii laboratory' and is now an expert witness causing problems for Microsoft in its antitrust battle with the European Union. Barrett 'has helped put the British glam rocker Gary Glitter behind bars for pedophilia. And he also has helped prosecute a teenage hacker from Wales, who claimed to have stolen Bill Gates' credit-card number and sent the Microsoft founder a shipment of Viagra. [...] In the corporate world, Mr. Barrett once met a challenge to hack into a large multinational company's system in four days to win a security assignment. He stole the company's undisclosed new logo as a trophy, he wrote.'"

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  1. Re:Not that I question Barrett's qualifications by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been programming for 20 years, I have created extensive systems using Cobol and C++. I am able to debug programs from large memory dumps over the phone. In my time I have come across loads of code in many different languages, and I have to say even though a peice of code may documented it doesn't make it readable, understandable or even usable. Especially when said documentation starts with "I don't know exactly why this was included, what it does, or how it does it but the system won't work without it" or simply "Sorry about this..."

  2. Re:Not that I question Barrett's qualifications by miffo.swe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem was that the documentation said different things at different places without specifying wich way was the correct way. A documentation should do that, else its pretty much useless. You could just as well just reverse engineer if the end result of using the documentatin is random.

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  3. Re:Not that I question Barrett's qualifications by aaribaud · · Score: 5, Insightful
    But for a guy who is able to hack locked-down networks in four days and can track down criminals by following their online scent, he sure seems to be giving up quite easily when claiming that Microsoft's manuals are "totally unusable" after four days of use.
    Well, to me a guy who is able to hack locked-down without documentation seems quite able to not need more than four days to ascertain whether some documentation for some code is useable or not according to what was asked from MS by the EU.
  4. Bill should hire new lawyers. by supersnail · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was pleasntly surprised during the US anti-trust case that Microsofts legeal team was so inept. Microsoft surivived that because of politics.

    Thier lawyers seem even better at p****ng off European judges. Only this time there is no President of Texas to ride to the rescue. They are not a major generator of jobs or revenue for any european state, and, they cannot legally contibute to any European polititions campaign fund. Thier only hope was a sound legal case and ass kissing, but, its too late for that now. I think this is just starting out and Microsoft will be paying anf paying for years to come.

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    1. Re:Bill should hire new lawyers. by the_womble · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And MS (like a lot of US multinationals) stuctures is European operations to generate as much of its profits as possible in Ireland (because Ireland has low corporate tax rates).

      The results are:

      1) Ireland gets a lot of tax revenue
      2) Ireland does what its told to by MS and others

      This is also why Ireland was behind the EU attempt to introduce software patents.

      All that trouble to get independence from Britain ... and a few decades later they sell themselves to the US.

    2. Re:Bill should hire new lawyers. by greenrd · · Score: 4, Insightful
      No wonder Charlie McCreevy (Irish EU commissioner) is opposed to EU harmonisation of corporate taxation laws!

  5. Re:resume? by stiggle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure where you get the "backstabbing little shit" from..
    As part of his job he is asked by the authorities to examine evidence they already hold - in the case of the Welsh hacker and Gary Glitter where the police already had the evidence.
    As ANOTHER part of his job, he does systems penetration tests.

    He doesn't do illegal stuff these days - it would completely destroy the reputation he has built up as a credible expert witness. Why bother illegally breaking into systems when people will pay you to break into their own?

    According to your thinking, every CSI and other specialist investigator is a "backstabbing little shit" as they turn over all the info they find to the authorities (who also hand it over to the defense as required to do so if they are using it in a court).

  6. Re:Not that I question Barrett's qualifications by miffo.swe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isnt a case where Microsoft can point at a random OSS project and yell "they suck too!".

    If the sentence is hard then tough luck, dont break the law in the first place. Its a punishment and its supposed to sting. It doesnt matter one bit if its hard to document the protocols but its pretty strange they arent already documented.

    Its not surprising that it takes for ever to do patches when nobody inside Microsoft seems to know how things should work. They have to test every single line they alter because they dont know how things are supposed to work.

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  7. Re:The guy who discovered Gary Glitter's paedo-fes by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thing is, the computer technician actually got the sack because he was breaking the Data Protection Act my snooping.

    Rightly so. He "helped" catch one pedophile, but so what? We all know that paticular suspect was under surveillance for quite some time anyway. And you're simply naive if you this this paticular tech only snooped once and just happened to stumble over one celebrities hidden cache. Dollars to doughnuts the tech regularly slurped customers hard discs for porn and the like.

    To paraphrase:
    It were better that Ten Suspected Pedophiles should escape, than that the Innocent Person should be subject to warrantless seizure.

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  8. The good thing... by jesterpilot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ireland is but a small country in the EU. Other member states see how Ireland gets revenue from taxes not paid in countries where the actual business was done. They will not think 'hey, that's fair, let them have that money, now let's listen what they have to say'. Other, more important member states will see the economic benefits from MS as stealing, not only from their own IT-business but also directly from their own treasure chest. And they are France, Germany and Italy, not Ireland. By evading taxes, MS might turn out to be penny wise, pound foolish.

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  9. Hello?!? MSDN by LinuxPoultergist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone who has ever had the misfortune to read MSDN documentation can see that Barrett speaks the truth.