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Automating Future Aircraft Carriers

Roland Piquepaille writes "Britain and France will jointly build three new huge aircraft carriers which will be delivered between 2012 and 2014. With their 60,000 tonnes, these 275-meter-long carriers will be the largest warships outside of the U.S. Navy. They're going to cost about $4 billion each, but with their reduced crews due to automation, they'll save lots of money to taxpayers during their 50 years of use. StrategyPage tells us that these ships will need at most a crew of 800 sailors instead of 2,000 for ships of that size today. At a cost of $100K per sailor per year, this represents savings of more than $6 billion. Impressive -- if it works."

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  1. Clippy by ktakki · · Score: 4, Funny
    It looks like you're launching an alpha strike.

    Would you like help?

    • Launch the +5 fighters for air cover and stage the strike fighters on the deck
    • Play a game of Minesweeper
    • Give up, you cheese-eating surrender monkey
    • Don't show me this tip again


    k.
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  2. Downsides by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Computer, fire two missles

      hacked by chinese, you 1s 0wn3d

    Oh Shit!
           

    1. Re:Downsides by Sj0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can imagine some potty mouthed naval Automation Engineer getting frustrated that the operator interface PCs crashed yet again and demanding someone get him a 24V supply and a laptop so he can rig up a "FUCKING fire button". :P

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  3. The supposed savings... by SmurfButcher+Bob · · Score: 4, Funny

    is because the "missing" half of the crew will actually be outsourced to India.

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  4. Uhhh.. by Apiakun · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article:

    "An aircraft carrier must fight, and find the enemy, and do a lot of other stuff."

    Brilliant writing there. Very eloquent. No, really, I mean it, and other stuff.

  5. Prediction: They will build 1, at most by Nova+Express · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Britain and France will jointly build three new huge aircraft carriers which will be delivered between 2012 and 2014."


    No, they won't. Here's what will happen:

    • Plans for three joint aircraft carriers are announced with much fanfair.
    • After much grumbling, both the French and UK parliments, not quite yet absorbed into the antidemocratic structure of the Brussels Bureaucracy, approve construction of three aircraft carriers.
    • A year or so later, the keel for the first aircraft carrier is laid down.
    • One year into the project, and the first carrier is already six months behind schedule and 10% over budget.
    • Two years into the project, and the project is already a year behind schedule. The construction start date for the last carrier are moved out another year.
    • Three years in, and France, in the middle of lingering recession with negative GDP growth and continuing muslim riots, falls behind in payments. Work tmporarily halted.
    • Following the replacement of Blair's government with hard left Labourites, military expenditures come under additional budget scrutiny, eventually being raided to prop up the ever-increasing cost of National Health Care. But mutual consent, the third carrier is cancelled altogether.
    • A shipbuilder's strike delays construction another three months.
    • Pressed for funds due to increasing UK involvement in the Pakistani Civil War, construction of the first carrier is slowed still further, and the second piushed out another two years.
    • Flaws in the automation system cause an upward revision the number of staffers required for
    • The carrier is now three years behind schedule, and costs are already more than 50% over projections.
    • Suicide attack by the Albion Martyrs of Allah Bridge breaches the forward hull of the unfinished carrier. Compartmentalization system prevents ship from sinking, but fire control system malfunctions, spewing flame retardent foam everywhere but,/i> where the explosion occured. Launch delayed another six months.
    • French giovernment falls after Islamofascist organization bombs Notre Dame, bringing right wing government of Sabine Herod to power. Military spending temporarily increases.
    • Mired in its own recession, UK government asks France to contribute more to carrier construction. Second carrier pushed out two more years.
    • After a mere nine months in power, Herod government resigns after fourth week of nationwide strike results in more than 1000 deaths. Socialist communist government cancels all funding for second carrier.
    • Excessive government spending by France, Italy, and half the the rest of the EU causes Euro to collapse. Germany refloats the Duetschmark. Work delayed still further by inabaility to figure iut what French half of carrier costs should be paid in.
    • It's now 2017, and the sole supercarrier is finally launched. A half day into first sea trials, catostrophic software failure leaves the Thatcher-Chirac carrier dead in the water. It has to be towed back to port. Carrier is still unavalable when China launches disasterous attempt to seize Taiwan.
    • Japan and South Korea announce existance of own nuclear arsanals three days after China's fleet is sent to the bottom of the Staits of Formosa.
    • Islamic Republic of France declared, falls. French half of crew pulled off for home security duty during attempts to supress the gorwing Islamic rebellion.
    • Citing rising world tensions, UK military announces joint deal with US to create new class of aircraft carrier....

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    1. Re:Prediction: They will build 1, at most by swpod · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, it won't get past the drawing board. The Brits won't accept the French plan to put the propellers in the front (their patented "PermaRetreat" technology).

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    2. Re:Prediction: They will build 1, at most by hobotron · · Score: 3, Funny


        I'd hate to see you fill out a Final Four bracket.

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  6. Re:The US Navy has a better new toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    At some point shortly after the Second World War, the US Navy total ship count passed that of the Royal Navy.

    Shortly after this a US Navy ship, cruising on joint patrol with an RN warship, sent the following signal:

    'How does it feel to belong to the second biggest navy in the world, bud?'

    The RN ship responded promtly:

    'How does it feel to belong to the second best?'

  7. Re:The US Navy has a better new toy by sane? · · Score: 5, Funny
    Reminds me of this joke exchange
    This is based on an actual radio conversation between a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier (U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln) and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. (The radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on 10/10/95 authorized by the Freedom of Information Act.)

    Canadians: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid collision.

    Americans: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.

    Canadians: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

    Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.

    Canadians: No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.

    Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH--I SAY AGAIN, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH--OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.

    Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

  8. Re:Useless by fatduck · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unfortunately Russians always turn left after the third Crazy Ivan, which makes them too predictable for real naval warfare.

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  9. Re:the Brits don't need help, so why? by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Funny

    The French and British co-operate on a lot of military ventures and despite what you may hear about famous Anglo/French rivalries actually have a good working relations. In fact I think we'd probably trust the French much further than we'd trust the US or Israel, not least because we can always hop across the channel and kick their little froggy arses if they get too uppity.

  10. Re:the question isn't CAN you do it.. by Moofie · · Score: 3, Funny

    "America as a rouge superpower."

    Yeah, just wait until we put on our lipstick and eyeshadow! THEN you'll see what a properly made-up superpower looks like!

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  11. Re:They miss the point entirely ! by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1, Funny

    [Duane: What, like the spine? Like one sentence?]

    No, I don't, fucking boy meets girl, I don't give a shit about that. Fuck boy meets girl, fuck motorcycle movie. No, what is really being said? What's really being said, that's what you're talking about. 'Cause the whole idea, man, is subversion. You want subversion on a massive level. You know what one of the greatest fucking scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood is? Top Gun.

    [Duane: Oh, come on.]

    Top Gun is fucking great. What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a bunch of fighter pilots. [Duane: It's about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around.] It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man.

    You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the fucking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.

    [Duane: What about Kelly McGillis?]

    Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: no, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what's going on throughout that whole movie...

    He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex, you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She's like, "What the fuck, what the fuck is going on here?" Next scene, next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I'm do that through subterfuge, I'm gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it.

    Okay, now let me just ask you--I'm gonna digress for two seconds here. I met this girl Amy here, she's like floating around here and everything. Now, she just got divorced, right?...

    All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they fucking land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin' A, man!

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  12. Re:if those things run Vista by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2, Funny

    If Vista's unavailable, maybe XBox-360 based systems, and use the hull as the heat sink. You'll only be able to use it in the Arctic Circle with all systems active, though.

  13. Re:They miss the point entirely ! by Punkrokkr · · Score: 3, Funny

    What are you talking about? Everyone knows that it takes five hits to take out the air-craft carrier, whereas a battleship will sink in four!

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  14. Re:They miss the point entirely ! by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 2, Funny
    Like the poster before you was saying, it was felt that aircraft carriers could not withstand the onslaught of a battleship with huge guns.
    Rightly so, it would seem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Glorious. I'm not an expert on naval strategy but it appears to me that the trick might be to not allow the battleship to get closer than x, where x is the range of its guns.
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