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Holographic Storage Crams in 0.5TB Per Square Inch

An anonymous reader writes "VNUNet is reporting that a company called InPhase Technologies claims they have successfully recorded 515GB of data per square inch to capture the record for highest data density. From the article: 'InPhase promised to begin shipping the first holographic drive and media later this year. The first generation drive has a capacity of 300GB on a single disk with a 20Mbps transfer rate. The first product will be followed by a family ranging from 800GB to 1.6TB capacity.'"

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  1. GigaBITs by Namarrgon · · Score: 3, Informative

    515 Gb is only 64 GB. So about 4.6 square inches of data surface on a 300 GB disc.

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  2. Re:My, what a small disk you have by mzwaterski · · Score: 2, Informative

    The summary incorrectly lists 515GB, but the article says 515Gb...

  3. Extremely slow transfer rate by iammaxus · · Score: 3, Informative

    With a 300GB capacity and 20Mbps tansfer rate, it would take 34 hours to read or write a single disk. Assuming they made a mistake in the transfer rate and its actually 20MBps (possible though unlikely considering HD-DVD drives are shipping with 35mbps, or ~4MBps rates), it would still take ~4 hours to transfer a disc. I can burn a 700MB CD in 5 minutes, and a 4.7GB DVD in 25 minutes.

    1. Re:Extremely slow transfer rate by merreborn · · Score: 2, Informative

      1) It is 20 MBytes/sec
      2) 4.7 gig / 25 minutes = 3 MB/sec
      3) 700 meg / 5 minutes = 2 MB/sec

      So, it's about 7 - 10 times faster than writing to optical media. What's your point?

      Even assuming it 20 Megabit, which it's not, it'd still be comperable to CD/DVD. ...And the "4 hours to write the entire drive!?" complaint is rather silly. Have you ever tried transfering 300 gig on a modern harddrive? It's within 1 order of magnitude of 20 MB/sec.

  4. Re:Data Rate? by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 4, Informative
    From the InPhase press release:
    InPhase will be the first company to deliver a holographic product for professional archive applications in late 2006. The media for this product will be offered through its strategic partner Hitachi Maxell Ltd. The initial InPhase Tapestry holographic recording device will record 300 gigabytes (GB) of data onto a 130 mm disc with a transfer rate of 20 megabytes per second (MB/s). This is compatible with high-definition television transmission rates, and high-end enterprise computer applications.
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  5. Re:Not at 20Mbps by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Informative
    I noticed that too, and I suspect the author meant MB/s, which is supported by the actual press release:
    The first generation drive has a capacity of 300 gigabytes on a single disk with a 20 megabyte per second transfer rate.

    The write transfer rate is determined by the time required to position the laser at the correct angular address, the speed of the shutter, the laser power, and the exposure time. In this demonstration the average exposure time per page was 2.7 milliseconds, which translates into a user write transfer rate of 23 megabytes per second.
  6. Re:no details by slughead · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to this video, the media can be stored for 50 years, and it also looks more like a replacement for tape backups than hard drives at this point.

    Coupled with this article, which says that it's "10 times faster than a normal DVD burner (whatever that means)," and holds about 300GB (278 GBytes formatted) it's clear that they're aiming for removable media.

    Apparently each 300GB disk is about the size of a DVD (but thicker due to it having it's own little shell, like a floppy/zip/mini disk). Just like all removable media, it needs its own drive. Unlike most, it needs a HUGE drive, about the size of one of the old tape drives (2xCD-ROM drives but longer).

    It's an interesting backup solution, maybe if you got a bunch of these and made a RAID-0 across them, you'd have something really cool.

  7. Re:Transfer speed by Fordiman · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think it's just the new higher 'resolution' technology that's presently limited to 20MB/s.

    The older stuff that got something like 200G/in^2 had a much faster transfer rate, but lower density.

    It's all due to the electronic end, really. The laser picks up the data at 1G/s, but the electronics take much longer to send it out to whatever bus reads it.

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  8. Re:Not that competitive. by OzRoy · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not a HDD replacement. It's a CD/DVD replacement. So imagine something that looks like a floppy disc holding 300G of data.

    Also remember that this is the first product to use this technology. In a few years we will look back on this and think about how amazingly slow it is, and how slow it is.

  9. Re:My, what a small disk you have by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yes. Someone has problems with bits and bytes.

    20Mb should be 20MB
    515MB should be 515Mb

  10. Re:Square or Cubic? by JambisJubilee · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, not three dimentions.

    The idea behind a hologram is that you can encode information from a higher dimentional space to a lower one, without much loss of generality. This device records three dimentional phase information (from the laser) onto an effective two dimentional subspace (the diffraction grating).

  11. The Press release doesn't seem to agree with you.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    From the press release:

    The initial InPhase Tapestry(TM) holographic recording device will record 300 gigabytes (GB) of data onto a 130 mm disc with a transfer rate of 20 megabytes per second (MB/s).

  12. Re:no details by hqm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your question is really backwards ; the idea of writing the same data to two or three places is just a very crude form of the "normal error correction" you refer to. "normal error correction" on CDs is implemented by cross-interleaved Reed-Solomon data encoding. It is far far more efficient than simply duplicating the data several times.

    If you can describe the error model of the medium, that is what types of errors are likely to occur (random dropouts, scratches which cause burst errors), you can then lay out the data on the disk to convert the statistically most likely errors into error distributions that your error correcting code is most able to deal with. For example, the Reed Solomon code deals with random errors the best, so you use two dimensional interleaving to convert burst errors (caused by scratches) into random errors sprinkled over many code words.

    The Reed Solomon code can correct an unbelievable number of errors, it is almost perfect. If you have 2N parity bytes, it can correct N random errors or up to 2N "erasures" (errors where you know the location of the error, due to the underlying demodulator telling you something is fucked).

    So if you naively just duplicate 100 Gigabytes data three times, you've got 300 GB but then you're screwed if two bytes of that data are corrupted in the different copies. If you use Reed Solomon, you would only need two extra bytes to give you the same protection.