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Paul Allen's Microsoft Experience

theodp writes "Just in case Microsoft bashers don't have enough ammo, Robert X. Cringely has a couple of interesting tales in this week's column. The first explains how Bill Gates used Paul Allen's moonlighting at MITS to justify awarding himself 64% of Microsoft's stock vs. Allen's 36% (and Gates' failure to adjust the shares after he accepted a $10/hour part-time MITS job). The second heart-warming tale concerns a conversation Allen reportedly overheard late one night (as he was finishing up DOS 2.0) between Gates and Steve Ballmer discussing how to get Allen's Microsoft stock back if the Hodgkins disease Allen was battling killed him. Yikes."

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  1. Re:Question for someone knowledgable by spiritraveller · · Score: 4, Informative

    This would be totally legal, and 100% possible given majority voting rights.

    Majority rule is not the only rule. Nor is it the most important.

    Not sure where you got the idea for this, but it's very far from legal. As a majority shareholder, you have a fiduciary duty to all shareholders in how you govern the company. That means you have a legal obligation to look out for their best interests. Ripping people off is obviously not looking out for their best interests.

    Also, you cannot discriminate against shareholders within a class of shares. They have to be treated as one group.

  2. Re:Wishful thinking by smartin · · Score: 4, Informative

    But to believe that one lawyer in Iowa is going to bring them down, when the full weight of the U.S. Department of Justice couldn't do it, and the E.U. is still trying to do it, is wishful thinking.

    Actually if i remember correctly the DOJ did bring them down, had them up against the wall and could have done anything they wanted. Then the administration changed and they were let off.

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  3. I call Bullshit by LibertineR · · Score: 5, Informative
    You certainly were not there. You might check out the link between Microsoft and the United Way and when it started, and how Bill and his mother were the driving force behind that long before Melinda became Mrs Gates.

    I know few people here like or appreciate Gates, but must we make shit up to slime the dude?

  4. Re:Bill Gates is a better man than Paul Allen by chadamir · · Score: 3, Informative

    From wikipedia article on Paul Allen: Much of Paul Allen's philanthropy has been dedicated to health and human services and toward the advancement of science and technology. The Paul G. Allen Family Foundation was established in 1986 to administer much of the giving. Through the Foundation, Allen awards nearly $30 million in grants annually. Approximately 75 percent of the Foundation's money goes to non-profit organizations in Seattle and the state of Washington. The remaining 25 percent is distributed to Portland, Oregon and other cities within the Pacific Northwest. Allen also contributes through other charitable projects known as venture philanthropy. The most famous of those projects are the Experience Music Project, the Allen Institute for Brain Science, and SETI. Paul Allen's total philanthropy as of 2005 is estimated to be over US$815 million. The University of Washington has been a major recipient of Paul Allen's giving. In the late 1980's, Allen donated US$18 million to build a new library named after his father, Kenneth S. Allen. In 2003 US$5 million was donated to establish the Faye G. Allen (his mother) Center for Visual Arts. Paul Allen also was the top private contributor (US$14 million) and namesake of the Paul G. Allen Center for Computer Science & Engineering (completed in 2004). Throughout the years, Allen has contributed millions of US dollars to the University of Washington Medical School, most recently US$3.2 million for prostatitis research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen#Philanthro py But yes Gates has given away more of his money and is therefore a better person... I guess?

  5. What a Whingely by FishandChips · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a non-article. It has a pompous title, "Prisoner of Redmond", followed by some tittle-tattle from 20-30 years ago that only gives one side of the story, then it cuts to today and a court case that has no real connection with the rest of the article. The end is pure opinion: "Based purely on character (or lack of it), I confidently predict that Microsoft is going down."

    I'm no fan of Microsoft (Linux here) but you don't get to where Gates is today by being a man with no talent or qualities. I'm still waiting for a lot of Cringely's oh-so-confident predictions about Google and their alleged container-size data centers to pan out. He seems to have gone very quiet on that front lately. Spinning a highly dubious yarn from yesteryear is no substitute for some journalism. Just my 2 cents, but I think Cringely is getting lazy.

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  6. Re:flamebate? by Stormwatch · · Score: 4, Informative
    Thanks. After reading your link, I have a new favorite sig ;)
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  7. Re:Question for someone knowledgable by CDarklock · · Score: 3, Informative

    > Cringely seems to be making a mountain out
    > of a molehill (and I'm not a MS fanboy).

    I agree, and I'm a Microsoft Partner.

    Basically, the question they were facing is a very real question. Whenever you have several people involved in a startup and one of them faces health issues, it is highly important to create a contingency plan in the event of their death.

    A common version of such a plan is to take out life insurance on the individual which pays sufficient benefits to purchase his share of the company outright. This generally gives his heirs something in excess of the cash value of the shares, which makes them happy, and keeps the shares themselves within the company family - which makes it happy.

    See, some of us *can* think rationally.

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