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Why Sony Should've Put Its Weight Behind Hi-MD

An anonymous reader writes "OSNews has an article making a case for Hi-MD: 'Currently, .mp3 players are all the hype. Everyone has one, and if you don't, you're old-fashioned. I do not have an .mp3 player. I tried to have one, but for various reasons it did not please me. I'm a MiniDisc guy. I've always been. MiniDisc has some serious advantages over .mp3 players, whether they be flash or HDD based.'"

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  1. Only applies to ipods... by JediLow · · Score: 5, Interesting
    One thing the article completely forgets - ipods aren't the only mp3 players on the market. All the different advantages (except actually having a disk) that it describes already exist in other models/brands of mp3 players (I've used my iRiver for recording and storage - which it gets read as an external hard drive, thus avoiding the issues the article has)... but don't exist in the ipod. But, thats what the masses do don't they? Every mp3 player is an ipod to them. Back to reality - outside really liking the minidisk format, there aren't that many reasons for using it over a mp3 player.

    Why do I use a HD mp3 player? It stores a large amount of music. I don't want to have to juggle around dozens of cds or in this case minidisks, I have over 15 gigs of music on my mp3 player and I don't have the time to find the disk that I want when I want to listen to certain things, nor does the space it takes to store all the disks appeal to me. I like having a device which can store large amounts of data - after trips with groups I'll normally get a dump of all the pictures that the group has taken and put them on my mp3 player to transfer.

    I've tried the mp3 cds (which was giving me 700 megs of storage compared to the 305 megs you get from older minidisks using the hi-md format), but I ended up having too many... and when I wanted to add music to it it meant that I had to burn a whole new disk... and I just plain didn't like using it... and my mp3 player has proven to be a whole lot more solid than any cd player I've come across (I've dropped it many times, left it out in my car through all the extremes of Michigan's weather, and its still been great).

  2. Windows only! Soon to die. Big downsides. by linuxbaby · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Important to note that even this MiniDisc fan-boy points out downsides to MiniDisc that completely kill it for most of us:
    Even though each Hi-MD player can be used as a mass storage device under windows, Linux, OSX, and even BeOS, you cannot just drag/drop .mp3s onto it. You are forced to use SonicStage. And of course SonicStage is only available on Windows
    then he ends with this:
    Now, it's all too late. I'm afraid MiniDisc will slowly but surely die out.
    Oh well.
    1. Re:Windows only! Soon to die. Big downsides. by distributed · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Found this interesting article
      Quoting:

      "We did finally make the Minidisc machine everbody knew Sony was capable of," said Miyazaki, "but at a considerable cost." Some members of Sony's vaunted Shinagawa engineering labs have apparently felt the burden has been too high however; since January over two dozen engineers and scientists have left to join Google Japan where, it is rumored, a wireless portable audio device with a wow-factor exceeding the iPod is under development."

      Now why isnt this on the frontpage instead of MD's sad death. :-(
      So many bad things have happened to Sony just because of the constant struggle with the Entertainment division.. crapping up so much innovation. Google could prolly be THE company to set things right in portable music.
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  3. If you're a musician MiniDisc is better by Llamakiller-4 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nearly all Mp3 players (if they record at all) are limited to voice recordings.
    If you want to record music and lots of it, MiniDisc is the way to go.
    Leave the expensive DAT for others, a Minidisc can get you up and running with
    live recording and onto CD in no time.
    Im not a fan of all their Atrac stuff, nor am I a fan of Sony's constant annoying
    search to create their own standard. Some day companies will learn there's more to
    gain from open standards than a gamble on closed standards. Sony for instance loses
    nearly every time.
    Betamax, Sony Memory Stick, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
    My new Minidisc from Sony is more open than their previous models.
    Works great - musicians, HiMd with Mic Input ! Great sound, on the cheap.
    Lk4

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  4. MD locks me out of my own music by fishbowl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't approve of the way MD locks me out of my own music. I didn't give Sony the authority to put DRM on stuff I record, but my MD recorder takes this liberty. I don't want to hear about how I can buy a "pro" deck that turns off DRM, and I certainly don't care about "Soundstage" software or whatever the hell they make you use now, where you get three chances to copy your original or some such, and it's *erased* -- I *certainly* didn't give Sony permission to *erase* my masters.

    I loved the idea of MD, but I hate, absolutely seethe with hate, to let Sony abridge my copyrights by putting DRM and copy-limitations on my work, just because I chose to use their cheap media. No thanks. CF-recorders may start at the $400 price point, but at least they don't seek to lock me out of my own work.

    I really don't care how badly Sony wants to control things. When they try to control *MY* work, I tend to get very, very upset.

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