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Americans Gearing up to Fight Global Warming
TechnoGuyRob writes "Global warming has been one of the most controversial and debated issues in the political and scientific sphere. A recent poll published in the Chicago Sun-Times now shows that 'An overwhelming majority of Americans think they can help reduce global warming and are willing to make the sacrifices that are needed, a new poll shows. After years of controversy, 71 percent of Americans now say they think global warming is real.'" (Jamie adds: and all it took was twelve years of overwhelming scientific consensus.)
Now that the WMD's have been taken care of, we're going to spend billions tackling another nonexistent threat. Wonderful. I look forward to receiving the tax bill.
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Jamie adds: and all it took was twelve years of overwhelming scientific consensus.
What does this add to the story apart from boosting the image that is a hangout for extreme lefties?
And any use of consensus as an argument for scientific truth needs some boilerplate:
At some point, there was also an overwhelming consensus that the earth was flat.
>the more gas you use, the more you pay in tax.
yes, and also the more gas you use, THE MORE GAS YOU USE.
you and a few others seem to miss the point that it's supposed to be about stopping you actually using the gas in the first place, not just getting some more in taxes from your use of gas.
A police state to save the environment is still a police state. If "environmentalists" were genuinely about the environment, then, nuclear power would have been adopted 30 years in the USA, and we would have met Kyoto targets decades ago. Environmentalism is not about solving environmental problems, its about using supposed environmental problems for a coterie of some scientists and activists to get money.
Just the other day, one scientist was cheering for ebola to wipe out 90% of the people to save the animals. Just give me one good reason to trust these people, just one! Sorry, I just can't see the reason that I should put my faith in someone that wants my entire family dead. That's the problem with the environmental movement in a nutshell. After 40 years of hearing these people call humanity a virus, the vast majority of americans backwards, telling us that Europe is better even though you can't get a job over there and they don't reproduce, why we should trust them?
However, with that said, fuel prices are sky high, and if you believe in "peak oil", then they will continue to climb. The free market works better than any federal leadership ever will. Ethanol looks to be a slam dunk replacement, and, with several million ethanol capable cars on the American roads, its only a matter of time before the US follows Brazil's lead and makes the switch.
So, we will get to screw the arabs and you people can have your environmental cake and eat it too. But we on the right wing were oh so right about nuclear power, all along.
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I think these tree huggers have it all wrong. Bottom line is switching from a regular Honda to a Prius and not using hair spray is not going to have a significant impact on reducing greehouse emissions, saving oil, etc... What's that going to give us, maybe a 20% reduction per person. Not going to help much when you have countries like China just spewing smoke into the air. All it really does is make you feel good about yourself and let you look down your nose at everyone NOT driving a Prius.
The real answer is to use MORE. If we are really at the peak of oil production, every environmentalist should use more oil. Keep your house at 85 degrees in the winter. Run the AC 24/7 in the summer. Buy the biggest SUV you can find and commute 50 miles to work every day. This way the oil reserves will be gone sooner and all the damage that can be done will be done. You can probably only reduce your consumption by 20% or so, but you could increase your consumption by 200 or 300% easily.
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We have had efficent and safe nuclear power since the 1950s... The goal of the U.S. government at the time was to convert to a nuclear economy by the 1980s.
But then Cold War politics and the "Enviornmental Movement" made nuclear power politically unacceptable.
Well, sorry, but the so-called "Enviornmentalists" need to accept their responsibility for Global Warming (by making viable alternative to fossil fuels politically unnacceptable). I am not going to conserve energy one bit, or make the tinest personal sacrafice, until organizations like Greenpeace stop politically sabataging alternative energy. I understand that converting to nuclear power from fossil fuels could take decades, and if we were making such a transition, I would be happy to conserve energy. But, those confused old hippies are going to have to give up their dream of taking us all back to the 18th century.
First paragraph: knee-jerk ranting about environmentalists
Knee jerk ranting? Let's see, I said that there is an environmentalist industry that seeks to perpetuate itself, and you replied with:
He brought up the Ebola virus to shock his audience into thinking about his message: airborne agents that can kill 90% of the human population are not science
Which is to say, AT BEST, that, "I'm researching these viruses, and if you don't give me any money, then 90% of humanity will be destroyed."
I'm going to state that I consider you a vile sort of liar, who lies by misrepresenting what others have said.
As you just did? I state that if you want to really do the world some good, shoot yourself in the head, you commie maggot!
Unreasonable faith in the free market, which treats the environment as a commons that they can use up. When a company uses the environment as a dumping ground, they are stealing from everybody else.
Stop peddling this myth that the market doesn't value the environment. Well, its' not even a myth, just another one of your bald faced lies. The market does, just not as much as your socialist aims would dictate! If someone dumps on your property, you can sue for the damages. If someone leaches onto your property, you can sue. If someone emits some gas that kills a bird on my land, then, that's damages as well. In fact, land can be valued to include the birds and bugs and streams and bears and it is being valued to include that. Every try shopping for waterfront property? Even wooded lots command a premium. Nature has value and the market reflects it, and if it doesn't have enough value, its that people like you aren't willing to pay for it.
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Doctor Pianka: Those who don't have a conscience about the Earth will inherit the Earth, "...because those who care make fewer babies and those that didn't care made more babies." He said we will evolve as uncaring people, and "I think IQs are falling for the same reason, too."
In other words, Doctor Pianka, like so many environmentalists, are so caught up in their lies that they turn evolution on its head and call it truth. Fact of the matter is, the people that breed the most are the ones that win.
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When humans get overpopulated, there's nothing inherent in human populations that will protect them. Bacteria crash when they are overpopulated. Humans will also crash when they are overpopulated
Oh, now, this is priceless. Last time I checked, humans can manipulate the environment in ways that bacteria cannot. We can alter the planet as we need to, or, colonize new ones. There is no fundamental upper limit to human population.
YOU are evil. YOU are the genocidal maniac. YOU are the anti-scientist. YOU disgust me
That's right. I stand in opposition to your mad plan to loose e-bola on humanity in order to save your pet salamander.
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