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Algae May Help Reverse Blindness

Anonymous coward writes ""Could a protein from algae help reverse blindness? Blind mice were able to respond to light after researchers inserted a green algae protein into retinal nerve cell membranes that normally aren't sensitive to light, according to a U.S. study," as reported by Forbes. There are more details at the Neurodudes blog, which includes a description of the novel method, which can convert any cell - nerve, muscle, etc. - into a light-sensing cell."

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  1. Screw blindness by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 3, Funny

    When can I get eyes in the back of my head?

    1. Re:Screw blindness by datafr0g · · Score: 1

      I think a spoon, a tube of glue, some tape and a friend to help would do the trick!
      I also recommend adding dry macaroni tubes and glitter for a nose and happy smile!

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    2. Re:Screw blindness by cre_slash · · Score: 2, Funny

      That is not cool enough, until you can have them at the end of tentacles mounted on your back. Thats definitively it. I think we should work for that....

    3. Re:Screw blindness by ceeam · · Score: 1

      Do you want them working as advertised?

    4. Re:Screw blindness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, in that case, just add a eye to your penis, tho, anal sex probably wouldent be as fun ...

    5. Re:Screw blindness by thePig · · Score: 1

      While you meant to be funny (and it is) , you did touch upon a valid point.
      This is a little offtopic.. but anyways ..
      Having eyes on the back of the head would have been a very simple way of saving you life.. if you were living the forest i.e.

      For most of the cattle/deer etc, it doesnt really matter since they have around 270 degree vision due to bulging and diametric eyes (along with the fact that they graze in groups).

      But for many of the other creatures, for ex primates/birds etc, their eyes dont have the whole range of view which would save them from an ambush predator.

      Cant guess why this did not come as an evolutionary advantage though ? Just one light sensing organ in the back of the head would have saved quite a bit of lives indeed.

      Is the amount of energy used cos of that, that big?

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  2. Implants by KiloByte · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, but how does this compare to the nice infrared/ultraviolet/X-ray vision thingies?

    Ah, the choice...

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    1. Re:Implants by HaydnH · · Score: 1

      Hmmm natural cells in your eye than can detect light or "a power source, a camera of sorts, a computational element, and an array of electrodes that can crank out precise, well-timed current pulses" (from tfa)... is that really a choice??

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    2. Re:Implants by LoonyMike · · Score: 0

      Cool, they can now build electronic parts out of algae

    3. Re:Implants by JanneM · · Score: 1

      natural cells in your eye than can detect light or "a power source, a camera of sorts, a computational element, and an array of electrodes that can crank out precise, well-timed current pulses" (from tfa)... is that really a choice??

      You're right, of course.

      Bring on the camera; zoom lens for me, please, and an external video input too!

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    4. Re:Implants by MichaelSmith · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      and an external video input too!

      You know that it will have to have DRM built into it, otherwise there is a risk you could remember movies in hi-rez and the entire structure of the entertainment industry would collapase and it would all be your fault.

    5. Re:Implants by vadim_t · · Score: 2, Informative

      The algae would probably be MUCH better.

      I saw a TV program about these implants some time ago. For that particular patent, vision was in a 16x16 matrix (IIRC), black/white only, and not all the pixels worked.

      The effective vision obtained from that wasn't much. Got the ability to notice sources of light, and when standing on the street the ability to determine whether there's a building in front. On the show the patient commented she hoped to be able to see her husband's outline and was disappointed she didn't see it.

      Of course, it's an amazing development anyway, which will hopefully be developed further into something actually usable, but at least the one I saw wasn't good for that much.

    6. Re:Implants by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      As the sibling poster noted, that system doesn't work as well as it could. It gave the users visual cues, but not enough to really understand what they were or how to make sense of them. But, research is continuing.

      Still, if you look at this from a futurist's point of view, once these implants will work, what stops them from making consumer ones that do any number of useful or frivolous things? Talk about true 3-D... (cue adult industry comment).

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    7. Re:Implants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, i've always wondered - what's to stop a talented artist from making un-DRM-laden covers of DRM'd music and releasing the covers? hell, the covers might become more popular than the original, if they can be freely traded on p2p...

      i know that you generaly have to get permission to release recorded covers for profit, and in europe you even have to have permission to perform them in public places, but to release for free?

  3. Well by mcc · · Score: 1

    Combine

    this

    with

    this

    and if everything goes right, maybe we'll at least be moving in that direction?

  4. Further research by ian_mackereth · · Score: 4, Funny

    While they had the visually challenged rodents available, one of the female researchers has conducted further experiments involving removal of their tails to see what effect this has on their running speed.

    1. Re:Further research by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I didn't get that one :(

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    2. Re:Further research by Specter · · Score: 1

      *sigh* 3 blind mice, 3 blind mice, see how they run, see how they run...

    3. Re:Further research by rbarreira · · Score: 1

      Oh OK :) That explains why I didn't get it :P (I'm not english/american)

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  5. Green Patches by RocketRainbow · · Score: 1

    I'm reminded of the story Green Patches by Asimov. Is this stage one of a very frightening change to life on Earth?

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  6. Link by The+Step+Child · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a link to the paper from Neuron.

  7. What about interpretation? by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 2

    Pardon my poor neuro-knowledge, but if you made a cell or a membrane lightsensitive that normally isn't, how would the brain interpret this signal? I don't think that you'd suddenly be able to see out of that area (loosly defining seeing as sensing light, kind of like when you close your eyelids but still can tell lights are moving around outside it.) Wouldn't the brain misinterpret the signals as whatever it normally recieves from that area, just based on the connection history of the neurons? Maybe it would eventually reroute the infromation to the sight portion of the brain.

    Reguardless, this could provide a number of interesting research opportunities to further our knowledge of the brain as well as visual systems.

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    1. Re:What about interpretation? by bcmm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's the odd thing about the human brain. It's normally very good at working out how to interpret incoming data, given enough time to get used to it. There's even been some success in using a grid of electrodes on the abdomen to simulate vision in blind people, using a camera to work out how much power to give each one.

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    2. Re:What about interpretation? by Maset · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Retinal ganglion cells (RGCs) normally take input from a range of photoreceptors and pass this down the chain to the visual cortex. I imagine this replacement therapy would result in a much more grainy image, but one that the brain can adapt to.

    3. Re:What about interpretation? by zark22 · · Score: 1

      Interestingly there were a number of studies (New Scientist has an article about it - probably a year ago) where blind people are able to "see" after a bit of training by using special electronic devices that transmit a message to their TONGUE! So perhaps by zapping this into various areas of the body the brain will be able make visual images from hitherto underutilized body parts. My mind boggles at the possibilities.

  8. Awareness by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

    "There are more details at the Neurodudes blog, which includes a description of the novel method, which can convert any cell - nerve, muscle, etc. - into a light-sensing cell."

    How about skin? An awareness of everything around you would rock. Also reminds me of a story I heard about someone having magnetic implanted so they could sense magnetic fields.

    It'd be a good excuse to wear my hair in bunches with my undercut, anyway ;)

    1. Re:Awareness by Marce1 · · Score: 1

      Think of the hat sizes on a bright day: Sunglasses and sun-block would be out of the question.

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    2. Re:Awareness by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      Meh - 20+ years in front of CRTs and in the company of goths have left me fairly sensitive to light anyway ;)

    3. Re:Awareness by The+Wicked+Priest · · Score: 1
      How about skin? An awareness of everything around you would rock.
      Would it? I'm not so sure... I suspect it would drive you insane.
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    4. Re:Awareness by lisaparratt · · Score: 1

      That presumes I'm sane in the first place 8D

  9. It's a good day to be blind. by lachesis-jp · · Score: 1

    Between this and this. It's a good time to be blind. Maybe blindness soon wont be the curse it once was.

    1. Re:It's a good day to be blind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With all due respect, I don't think it's ever a good time to be blind. At least according to my blind friend, he'd gladly swap with you though.

  10. what this does for styles by perfessor+multigeek · · Score: 1
    It'd be a good excuse to wear my hair in bunches with my undercut, anyway ;)
    Yeah, but what about people who want these cells on their hands, arms, legs...

    Gonna cause whole different attitudes about clothing. Maybe the only relevant story isn't Green Patches. Maybe we should be looking at The Puppet Masters

    *snert*

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  11. We want visors by morie · · Score: 1

    No way! We want the cool tech described earlier today, not some slimy algae!

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  12. Ugly vision by Marce1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Getting eyesight in extra body areas could become like getting tattoes today - some people might get covered, some stay 'clean'. I expect there would be common areas to get done, and some a bit more saucy..

    Hind-sight could become a type of vision best avoided.

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    1. Re:Ugly vision by La+Gris · · Score: 1

      Unless there is some light focussing organ/device over light sensitiv cells, like the eye structure focussing light to the retina, there is little use of sensing bare ambiant light with random unsorted photons. Skin tissue is able to sense infrared light, but it can hardly distinguish direction, wavelength or shapes from that.
      While Re/enabling visible light sensitivity to a deffective retina do bring hopes of some possible blindness cures, this will have no effect on other eye deffects/illnesses of the optical kind.

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  13. Can I do it till I need algae? by Ranger · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This good news for most slashdotters. Sitting in front of a computer, surfing for porn all day, and jackin' it is the leading cause of blindness in slashdotters. Because as their mother always tells them jerkin' off will make them go blind. Please give the Algae Fund today.

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    1. Re:Can I do it till I need algae? by Ranger · · Score: 1

      Flaimbait, eh? I was expecting Troll at worst and Funny at best. I musta hit a nerve.

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  14. Sweet by Richard+Dick+Head · · Score: 1

    Now I can grow eyes on my other head. Then I won't have roll her in flour to find the wet spot!

  15. Transdermal image recognition by base_chakra · · Score: 1

    That's the odd thing about the human brain. It's normally very good at working out how to interpret incoming data, given enough time to get used to it. There's even been some success in using a grid of electrodes on the abdomen to simulate vision in blind people...

    If the "paranormal" reports of people who are able to "read" by sweeping their fingers and/or feet over text are credible, perhaps these kinds of photosensitive cells are the mechanism? It would not constitute "vision" per se, but perhaps the brain can, at least, decode the patterns of color changes across a surface with a fidelity sufficient to recognize and comprehend letterforms.

  16. In contrast to recent blindness-causing fungus by msbmsb · · Score: 1

    This algae is in contrast to the eye fungus going around that can cause blindness.

  17. Palmreading by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    If the "paranormal" reports of people who are able to "read" by sweeping their fingers and/or feet over text are credible, perhaps these kinds of photosensitive cells are the mechanism? It would not constitute "vision" per se, but perhaps the brain can, at least, decode the patterns of color changes across a surface with a fidelity sufficient to recognize and comprehend letterforms.
    The general "scientific" explanation used is that the people are sensing the slight difference in heat between the black letters and white text (or the slightly raised surface of the ink). Now in actuality, the answer is usually that the person being tested is getting their cues in an even less legitimate manner, ranging from brief glimpses at the paper before being blindfolded (often unconsciously) to deliberate fakery.

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  18. Organic Visor? by chinton · · Score: 1

    What, is the implant made out of algae?

  19. Reverse Blindness? by MoogMan · · Score: 1

    "Reverse Blindness"? Sounds like something from a Terry Pratchett novel. Is that like where you see too much, or too hard?

  20. Because WE'RE the predators. by jonskerr · · Score: 1

    >Cant guess why this did not come as an evolutionary advantage though? Just one light sensing organ in the back of the head would have saved quite a bit of lives indeed.

    Why? Why is obvious: it's unnecessary. Humans and other primates have binocular vision, probably originally to help in brachiation, moving from tree limb to tree limb. No big cats up there jumping on our backs, so unnecessary to have eyes in the back of our heads. Then when we came down from the trees, we lived mostly in open savannha. Leopards living up in trees might mean we'd have to have eyes in the top of our heads, but we were busy using binocular vision to capture our own prey. And by now it should be pretty obvious to everyone that humans are the top predator in the world. Hell, we've got our very own Mass Extinction going! Eyes in the back of our heads? Who needs 'em!

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  21. Re:As one of the first discoverers of algae.... by know1 · · Score: 1

    are you scottish or something? they claim to have invented about 3 new things a minute just like you