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Why Open Standards Matter

Tina Gasperson over at Newsforge (Also owned by VA Software) has an interesting writeup about her experience at the Government Day sub-conference at LinuxWorld Boston. Government Day addressed some interesting issues including some of the more tangible reasons behind supporting open standards. From the article: "Speaking to the audience of government workers, Villa said, 'Maybe 2006 is not the year that Linux ends up on your desktops.' But, he encouraged them, if they begin using software that supports open standards now, such as Firefox and OpenOffice.org, then when Linux is ready it will be that much easier to make a switch. 'And maybe you'll decide not to make that switch,' Villa said. 'But at least the choice will be yours.'"

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  1. Getting the point across by bloobloo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you want to describe the importance to a non-techie audience, the best idea is to use the simile of describing closed formats like betamax. Although it had its advantages there are problems getting the information back out. Yet "open standards" such as cine film can still be viewed or transcribed more easily. The closest people can usually get to understanding in terms of computer programs are the problems in moving from Access 98 to 2000.

    1. Re:Getting the point across by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "If you want to describe the importance to a non-techie audience, the best idea is to use the simile of describing closed formats like betamax. Although it had its advantages there are problems getting the information back out. Yet "open standards" such as cine film can still be viewed or transcribed more easily"

      Your heart is in the right place, but this doesn't strike me as a great example just on the grounds that somebody (like me..) would go "huh? Betamax works on all betamax players!" A better example would be one that most people would have dealt with at one time or another. "Have you ever tried to get your check-engine diagnosed outside of your dealer?" Or: "Have you ever tried to use your old cell phone with your new provider?" Okay, admittedly I haven't hit the PERFECT example, but in those cases anybody who has answered yes to those questions would have a lightbulb appear over their heads.

      Anyway, this isn't a rebuttal, just a suggestion of a better example. I was a little lost the first time I read your post.

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    2. Re:Getting the point across by jyda · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd argue that that example does more to illustrate the importance of standards, generally, rather than open standards. But if it's getting the point through, why not?

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  2. author mistaken? by phreakv6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has the author mistaken Open standards to Open source ?
    We use Open standards very much in our everyday life dont
    we?
    HTML, TCP/IP, GSM, PCI , XMPP ( jabber, google talk ).. etc. etc.

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    1. Re:author mistaken? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Insightful
      We use Open standards very much in our everyday life dont we?

      Word, ppt, excel, smb, quicken, asf, wmv

    2. Re:author mistaken? by babbling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      DOC, iTunes, SWF, MOV, etc, etc.

    3. Re:author mistaken? by Fanboy+Troy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      HTML, TCP/IP, GSM, PCI , XMPP ( jabber, google talk ).. etc. etc.

      We use Open standards very much in our everyday life dont we?

      Word, ppt, excel, smb, quicken, asf, wmv



      Even more interesting: compare which of the above said standards actually fostered growth in technology and paved new ways of doing business:

      The first set brought everyone the web, the internet, mobile phones, a plethora of choices for expansion cards, etc... all going down price-wise. Alot of opportunities of doing business also.

      The second ones, well... made us have to pick certain platforms/vendors to be relevant... I don't know about everyone else, but over here the price of windows or Office is not going down! Magic food indeed.

    4. Re:author mistaken? by Fanboy+Troy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      wmv is open standard . Microsoft has submitted it to standards body inorder to get it as one of the codecs in Blue Ray disc standard, and HD-Disc standard.

      It is A standard. Not an open one with the full meaning of the word open. Can I make a GPL application that will legally play wmv files? Can I make a closed source freeware application that can play wmv files without paying a royality to microsoft? I would happily admit I am wrong if you provide me links to the opposite...

    5. Re:author mistaken? by jocknerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This leads to a reason why we need a new definition of what open standards mean. AAC is an open standard, because it was agreed upon by a committee and its specs were submitted. But its not free. A license for the encoder will set you back about $15K. Not open by my definition. To me, an open standard should be free of patents and licensing fees in addition to having documented specs.

  3. When you're ahead... by Anonymous+MadCoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I once had a standards seminar where soemone made the interresing remark that open standards only matter to companies that are behind in marketshare. Once a company is dominant they want closed standards.

    Of course "open source" can hardly be defined as a company.

    1. Re:When you're ahead... by Anonymous+MadCoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think there is something to say for both points of view. In some ways the "free labour" sounds tempting, on the other hand having a closed shop with "your own" developers can be much more predictable (mark the can be != is ;-) ). And in that way it is harder to profit from your investment.

      And of course there are branches (like where I'm in) where things are mostly secret and the actual cost of internal development is lower than the cost of leaking information (which could just be a way of doing things).

      I think in the end it mostly depends on the type of business you're in.

  4. Starts with DRM by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People are only going to awake to open standards when they realise that the digital movie or tune that they bought suddenly doesn't work anymore because the format is old, closed, and the company went bankrupt. I.e., people will only care about open standards when they run into lovely DRM more often in their daily lives.

    Now, from a business point of view.... open standards is actually much harder for IT outsourcing companies to handle. Most of the employees of such companies (who are cheap) are low skill, MCSE people, and even if they aren't, they couldn't write a PERL script to save their hides. Problems start when IT head management wants to try and get these people to help troubleshoot hardware issues with FreeBSD, hack the Linux kernel, and develop and deploy untested beta software for critical systems all at MCSE skills and prices.

    Not only is it hard to find people to be Open Source nuts and support open standards, but they cost more. This is where Microsoft wins out with PHBs, because at they pick cheap and fast out of the (Cheap/Fast/Quality) trinity... then they end up accepting locked standards.

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    1. Re:Starts with DRM by Tim+C · · Score: 3, Insightful

      people would be forced to either give up their library of songs from iTunes, or upgrade from WinXP to OSX rather than Vista.

      You seem to be forgetting option C), namely "or not upgrade their OS at all".

    2. Re:Starts with DRM by VGPowerlord · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Since there is a good chance the current version of iTunes won't work on the final version of Vista, people would be forced to either give up their library of songs from iTunes, or upgrade from WinXP to OSX rather than Vista.

      I can run Windows programs all the way down to ones made for Windows 3.1 on XP. Microsoft puts a lot of stock into backwards compatibility. Perhaps you should rethink that statement?

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  5. Re:Maybe not this year... by ajs318 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    XML is not necessarily open. After all, it's extensible, and extensions can be proprietary. Microsoft could have a container like
    <SecretProprietaryExtension>
    ..... loads of weirdy characters .....
    </SecretProprietaryExtension>
    and as long as their schema mentioned <SecretProprietaryExtension> as a valid container, then it would be valid XML. If they really wanted to arse it up for their competitors, they could describe the document entirely within the secret proprietary extension; but put in some valid-looking markup that would actually create a less-than-perfect rendering In Real Life.

    Microsoft's entire business model revolves around making new versions of Office that are incompatible with previous versions, giving a few copies away for free, and thereby forcing everyone else to upgrade in order to read the files their friends have sent them. Really, it's just a form of built-in obsolescence ..... unlike hardware, you can't make software fail after a certain amount of use.
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