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Alleged British Hacker Fears Guantanamo
Magnifico writes "The BBC is reporting that Gary McKinnon, a British man accused of breaking into the U.S. government computer networks, could end up at Guantanamo Bay. His lawyer is fighting his extradition to the United States arguing, 'The US Government wants to extract some kind of species of administrative revenge because he exposed their security systems as weak and helpless as they were.'"
Armed militants captured on the field of battle don't merit a trial.
When Republicans end up being convicted for crimes against humanity (and don't worry, they will, sooner or later), I think it would be very pleasantly ironic for them to all be shipped off to Guantanamo, hopefully after we release it to Castro and pay him to run it as a prison with very strict "discipline."
If they complain, we'll say, "Hey, at least you bastards got a fucking trial."
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
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"What he's complaining about is that current US anti-terror laws make it possible for him to be held indefinitely without trial."
Maybe he should have thought about this BEFORE he decided to commit the crime. Guys like him who are proud of the crime and claim to be doing the victim a "service" should stay locked up indefinitely. I would not mind if he "accidentally fell out of the plane" over the Atlantic on the way over as well.
He gave up the rights to whine once he chose to commit the crime. He gives up any right to reclaim whining-rights as long as he thinks the crime is a good thing.
Too damn bad? Perhaps he should of thought about that shit before hacking into government systems? Personally people who do that shit and get caught, should have a sniper put a bullet into their head....Far cheaper and effective than prosecution.
Getting shipped off sans due process to an offshore prison camp for an indeterminate sentence for something you weren't convicted of... that's something else entirely.
Can you name even one person who has been "shipped off sans due process to an offshore prison camp" who wasn't captured in a war zone under arms while not wearing a uniform? You can't, because that hasn't happened. The people at gitmo are people who were in a war zone under arms, yet failed to identify themselves with a uniform. A simple arm-band would suffice. The point is not so much to identify soldiers, but to protect civilians by avoiding misidentification. According to the Geneva Convention, persons who behave this way are NOT entitled to protected POW status. They Geneva Convention and the accepted laws and customs of war specify that such persons may be summarily executed.
The United States has chosen to put those people into jail rather than execute them. That is a favor that the US is doing out of the kindness of its heart. Your welcome.
Nobody arrested in the US has ever been sent to gitmo. Nobody arrested overseas has been sent there. The only people at gitmo are people captured by the military under circumstances where the US has every right to execute them.
Thus, your statement re: gitmo is nothing more than a straw man argument.
Of course, since you haven't provided any links to verifiable accounts of said events, I'm going to rule everything you've said so far as 'bullshit', 'conjecture', and 'left-wing/liberal anti-bush/war propaganda' and move on.
I would add one more thing to this - it probably is the worst prison in the US (well, under US control, anyway). And it should be - these are the worst scumbags. They make the prison as bad as it is - why is the alledged torturing happening? Do you think we are trying to get intel from these people that have been in prison for a few years?
The "torture" is the measured reaction by the guards to the feeces flinging inmates. Who, yes, should be shot. (By the way, no one really believes in trials in times of war. How many Iraqis get a trial before return fire kills them? The legal issues are different - but they are still there, and they are still followed)
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An embarassment? It's an effing resort. I'll go to Guantanamo over any other jail thank you...
Sorry, you can go back to your propaganda now