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TiVo vs EchoStar - TiVo Wins

ssuchter writes "A jury just ruled in favor of TiVo in their suit against EchoStar, awarding TiVo $73M of the $87M they asked for. From the article: 'TiVo had sought $87 million in damages from the Dish satellite-TV network in a patent dispute that TiVo lawyers said could be "life or death" for the company that sold the first box for pausing and rewinding live television.'"

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  1. Well, this saves Tivos butt... by Abreu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good to hear an innovative company is able to have its patent respected...

    Bad thing is, the lifespan on a patent will probably make that what is right now good news, later becomes bad news

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  2. Re:Tivo boxes are free now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You miss the point. First off, the jury ruled the infringement was knowingly done, ie, deliberate, so the judge could triple the damages awarded to TiVo.

    But it's not about one settlement from Dish/Echostar. TiVo will make much more money licensing its patents, and selling its software and services. Five years down the road and the money TiVo will be making in new business will make this award money look like chickenfeed. It's about getting TiVo's patents enforced, and getting cable companies and satellite companies to do business with TiVo. It's the legal decision that matters, not the size of the monetary award.

  3. Re:Idiot Lawyer by Jerf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    if you want to call subsidized by higher cable rates "free"

    I have a simple rule: s/free/paid-for/g, in all promotional material.

    Then you think about who is paying for it.

    Every once in a while, the answer won't be "you, the customer", and that's when you should jump if you're interested. But usually, it's you.

  4. Mixed Feelings by logicnazi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On the one hand I'm happy to see a company that created a truly new product be rewarded.

    On the other hand I'm not sure that what TiVO did wasn't obvious. Using a HD rather than a videotape was surely obvious and automating the process of recording shows is not only obvious but far from original. All TiVO did is put both of these things together in a convient package and I find it hard to formulate any principled rule that would call TiVO's developments non-obvious but NPT's blackberry patent obvious.

    The difference seems only to be that geeks like TiVO and TiVO hasn't being suing individuals who decide to set up their computers to tape shows for them. But if they do get their patent enforced that is exactly what they *could* do in the future.

    In the end I tend to think the TiVO patent should have been rejected as obvious. However, I think the only reason TiVO didn't make money is the monopoly cable companies and satellite companies have on their markets. When data service becomes the commidity everyone buys and there is free competition amount content providers on an open protocal companies like TiVO won't be shut out by monopolists who can make it difficult for TiVO to penetrate their markets.

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