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Leaving Early May Cost You Time

markmcb writes "OmniNerd has an interesting traffic article demonstrating how leaving early for work may cost you time. Brandon Hansen uses a year's worth of data collected on his urban drive to and from work along with statistical analysis to show the effects of varying departure times and considering external factors like nearby school districts' schedules. In the end, a minor shift in his departure time results in saving driving hours equivalent to over a third of the vacation time given annually by his employer."

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  1. What rush hour? by Rurik · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wow, site is already slashdotted.

    I work in IT, and a specialized form, around a metro area. Rush hour is typically from 8-10AM, and 3:30-6PM. I live 45 miles from my work, and have tried for years to find the best time. The best solution I found was getting up at 5, leaving by 5:30, and cutting my 1-hour commute to half an hour. And, it works great! I get in by 6:00AM, and have nearly two hours of quiet with a few coworkers before the loud masses come in with their whining and requests for help.

    I just wish that coming in earlier meant leaving earlier.

  2. Dead link... here's a mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    No karma whoring link to the article.

  3. mirror by winkydink · · Score: 1, Informative
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  4. Missing the Point by pen · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not leaving later that saves you time, it's not driving when everyone else is driving. Not only does this ignore anyone who doesn't drive to work -- my subway commute is a lot faster during rush hour -- but it totally misses the point.

    At a previous job, leaving 15 minutes early would save me 30 minutes of commute time, since I would get in before rush hour traffic.

    1. Re:Missing the Point by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not missing the point, really. Much like the author of the FA, I am not in an area where mass-transit exists, much less is an option.

      I save a HUGE amount of time by going to and from work after rush hour. Fortunately my employer permits this (within reason). As an added bonus, I get to sleep late. For whatever reason, sleep between 6 AM and 8 AM seems to be the most "productive" for me, regardless of when I go to bed.

      Granted, I now live close enough that when the temperature and weather are reasonable (meaning I don't waste further time by having to shower after I arrive at the office, and don't risk being stuck for hours after work hours due to the evening thunderstorms), I can walk in about 20 minutes max.

      When I drive during (or attempt to go before) rush hour, the drive takes about 20 minutes. When I go 15 minutes after 9, it's 5 minutes.

      A lot of that has to do with people who are getting on the interstate, have a much longer drive, and are so resigned that they don't pay enough attention for everyone to hit the lights properly...Or are obsessed with doing business on their cell phones when they're supposed to be driving...

      So in part I guess you're right, it's not driving when everyone else is driving, but I'm not getting up at 5 AM to miss the rush, so I really don't think he was missing the point entirely...

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  5. 80 hours vacation? by WarwickRyan · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Spread out over 50 work weeks, that results in a total savings of over 30 hours a year - the equivalent of about a 38% boost to my existing 80 hours of vacation."

    Now I'm always hearing how "good" we have it in Europe, what with 25 days (187.5 hours) holiday each year plus 8-10 bank holidays.

    Finally something us Brits do better than the Yanks (even the US version of our Office is better).

    1. Re:80 hours vacation? by Mr+Z · · Score: 5, Informative

      Google for distribution of wealth and you'll get tons of links, such as this one, which includes such nifty statistics for the US as:

      • The wealthiest 5% of households hold nearly 60% of all the wealth.
      • Wealth disparity has increased over the last 20 years.
      • The bottom 60% of households hold 4.2% of the wealth despite earning 26.8% of the income.

      Careening back on topic... for what it's worth, I tend to telecommute in the morning and show up after lunch. I then drive home after the dinner rush--around 7PM. That usually works out pretty well.

      --Joe
  6. Re:And how much time will I save? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  7. 800 million gallons wasted daily...?! by ByTor-2112 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not much of a nerd if that didn't ring a thousand bells as it was written. That figure is flat out impossible. Daily gasoline consumption in the USA is estimated at almost 9 million barrels, far less than 800 million gallons.

    1. Re:800 million gallons wasted daily...?! by dakryx · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well that would be 450 million gallons once you converted from barrels to gallons, but yes still less than 800 million.

  8. US productivity per hour higher than EU by Spock_NPA · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm not sure on what basis you're drawing your conclusion that French, German and British's worker productivity per hour is "way higher" than US worker productivity. The comparative statistics released by U.S. Department of Labor shows that American worker's productivity per hour in manufacturing has been significantly higher than France, Germany, and UK in recent years.

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    1. Re:US productivity per hour higher than EU by Spock_NPA · · Score: 2, Informative

      The statistics I linked to is output per hour, not output per year. It does take into account the shorter work days and more vacation times of our European friends. Here's links to other comparative measurements.

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  9. Re:Leaving Differently by TheRealBurKaZoiD · · Score: 3, Informative
    But it is fun to give a smug wave to the ass that blew past you at 90mph about 20-30 minutes ago as you pass him stopped in traffic because you chosae the correct lane to stay in while he keeps switching lane to lane.

    Yes, that is one of great pleasures of life. More often than not, I even beat these guys to the same destination.

  10. Don't know if this matters but.... by jm007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... I, too, live in Houston and the areas in the study are by no means the highest/worst traffic areas in this sprawling metropolis. This is not to say that the traffic there isn't bad - no doubt it exists just about everywhere - but just pointing out that it may not reflect Houston accurately. Just ask anyone who has been anywhere near the I-10/I-610/59 Hwy tangle if you're interested in new ways to string together a few expletives.

    I really don't know if the results can be applied generically or really can only be pertinent to the same area studied.

    Interesting project, though.

  11. Re:cycling by Woldry · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm not familiar with Australian weather, but here in northeast Ohio, snow and ice and the like make cycling problematic at best for several months out of the year; "impossible" is probably closer to the truth.

    Much of the spring and fall, frequent rain is likewise a problem; I'm told (though I haven't counted 'em myself) that we have fewer sunny days annually here than Seattle. I don't have a problem getting wet, but we have no shower or locker room facilities where I work, and a poncho/raincoat/whatever can only keep you so dry. I DO have a problem with sitting in wet clothes all day long.

    Summers, cycling could work, but it's very humid here in the summers, and again, no shower facilities at work, and I value my co-workers' goodwill too much to do that.

    As for finding parking for a bicycle, again, I can't speak for Australia, but where I work there is no safe place to store a bike. They aren't allowed in the building, and the bike rack itself got stolen once, so I wouldn't be comfortable chaining a bike to it. We have running complaints from customers whose bikes have been stolen, locks and all.

    Weather permitting, I walk to work. I'm lucky enough to live close enough to do so. But given Ohio weather, it isn't always a reasonable option, especially when I'm expected to "look professional" when I arrive and stay that way all day long.

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  12. Re:well... by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 2, Informative
    How do I get a job like that?

    It's a common trend, my employer said before he hired me that he wanted me to "rather work 2 hours at home instead of standing 2 hours in traffic each day."

    I haven't seen the office customers interface with, but I'm their main programmer working remotely on virtual machines on our serverfarm and having meetings occasionally wherever is most convenient for everyone needing to be present. (depends where my employer is networking with customers or wherever my collegues at the helpdesk are on interventions at the moment.)
    I might get 2 junior programmers which might require me to work in the office though.

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  13. Re:Rule of 13 by hashinclude · · Score: 2, Informative

    Shouldn't that be "America doesn't use 24 hour clock time like Europe does, we're insensitive clods!"

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  14. Re:Doing the math... by Dion · · Score: 5, Informative
    Uh, no. Sorry, but the US has the most productive people in the world, along with highest per-capita income among comparable countries (certain middle eastern countries have a higher per-capita for obvious reasons). I don't feel like looking up the stats.
    I'd like to see your "Uh, no. Sorry", and raise you with a "nuh uh": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ GDP_(nominal)_per_capita As you can see we (Denmark) is ranked slightly above the US and we *have* over 5 weeks of mandatory hollidays each year, free healthcare (my granny just had a double bypass within hours of feeling ill, total cost: 0) and free education. While you are at it, examine this list, we are at a respectable 25'th place and solidly in the black, see if you can figure out who the deadbeat who is an order of magniture worse than the second worst is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ current_account_balance The US economy, civil rights and customer rights are in the crapper and your current administration is not helping matters.
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  15. Ethnocentrism and commute times by Coeurderoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I found the article rather interesting, and it is probably interesting as a hint for a city planner.
    Not personally really relevant, but generally interesting, but what made me laught was the conclusion at the end.
    30% increase in hollydays ? hum, even ignoring the fact that 7minutes in the evening is not the same as 7minutes on the beach during a hollyday, reality hit home when I read that it is 30hours in addition to the 80hours of "normal hollydays", that is 10 days ?

    In continental europe the normal number of hollydays for IT people is at least 25 days, and typically 30 .. 35 days.
    Therefore the result is not only that since there are less work days the 30 hours gain would be about 10% lower, but it would have to be compared to a much higher number of hours.

    In europe (where the typical worker productivity is higher than in the US) the news would be:
    By careful planning of your commute hours you can gain about 10% of additional "free time minutes", wich would of course be a great conversation piece in front of the coffe machine.

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  16. Re:Doing the math... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    This guy is dead on. Check out the facts about this socialist country: just recently elimiated their national debt, low unemployment, high incomes, free health care and near free education (MBAs were recently told they get to pay) that has resulted in the most educated workforce going.