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Azureus Inc. Moves Toward Commercialization

SamBob writes "Future releases of the most popular BitTorrent client, Azureus, will come bundled with a 'platform' for media companies to promote their product to Azureus' multi-million users, reports Slyck.com. Azureus Inc., who are the newly formed company behind the Azureus software, plan to generate a profit from the platform in the future, but in the short-term are hoping to help independent film companies find their audience."

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  1. Re:"Platform?" by BPinard · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exactly what I was thinking. This is bad news. Good thing I've been using uTorrent for a while now.

  2. well by bwd · · Score: 5, Informative

    It looks like it's time to migrate to utorrent if you haven't already. There no commercialization associated with it and it's much faster. The only downside is that it's for windows only.

    1. Re:well by Dis*abstraction · · Score: 3, Informative

      And for the Mac, there's Transmission, an open source Cocoa-native client that looks and feels like it was actually written by a true-blue Mac user with a sense of taste. Caveat: it doesn't support distributed tracking (yet). But for most torrents, it's the leanest, most Mac-like client out there.

    2. Re:well by EngMedic · · Score: 5, Informative

      use rTorrent + screen + ssh; even faster, no graphical capaibility required.

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  3. Re:I can only hope by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I've only used it on OS X, and here it is a travesty. The GUI doesn't do live resizing (unlike every other OS X app). You often need to do a small resize to persuade the GUI to actually draw in the right place. The widgets don't behave quite like the ones that look the same in other apps. After an hour or so of use, it climbs to over 0.5GB of RAM usage (in-core size, not just VM size). It somehow seems to leak CPU - after a couple of hours it will be using 100% of my CPU for no observable reason.

    I am not sure how much of this is due to Azureus and how much to SWT, but whatever the cause the result is a completely unusable product.

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  4. Re:Fork. by MoogleEXE · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yes, of course -- http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ So all it takes if this happens is to wait for someone with better coding skills then mine to create an unofficial "patch", right? Then what's the big fiasco?

  5. This does not mean advertising by anzev · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm not sure if all of you just want to post ASAP or can't read but this does not mean they will bundle azureus with adware of any sorts. AFAIK, a content layer will just provide a way of getting free content (they said in TFA that they have not yet analyzed any serious payment methods so this could mean it will be free, or not). Too bad they won't let the big distributors come into play:

    "Large movie studios and record labels will not be targeted for the project, as the Azureus team do not believe that they are ready yet. "You're not going to see Star Wars or Batman quite yet," joked Rohter."

    So basically everybody will be allowed to make a movie, then post it on this platform, and if I will like the "genre" I will just download it... Kindof :).

    Anyway, I think it's premature to judge anything until we see what they've got.

  6. Re:"Platform?" by nkh · · Score: 2, Informative

    try launchmany-curses.py if you want to download many torrents at the same time, for example: launchmany-curses.py --max_upload_rate 5 . to download all the torrents of the current directory, and on Mac OS X, if you drag and drop new torrents in this directory, these new torrents are automagically added to the download list.

  7. Re:BT clients with RSS? by cybereal · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, at least one. The best Windows bittorrent client ever: http://www.utorrent.com/

    It offers all of the features that Azureus supports, with a much faster slicker interface. It is of course, Windows only. I have no idea if it works on WINE. It is also very very small, a single executable file currently 154.44k (The download page doesn't even bother to zip up the exe file)

    I always used azureus until I found this beauty. Everyone should give it a shot if they are on Windows.

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  8. Virtual PC? by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    On other systems... uTorrent running on Wine? Virtual Machine?

    Do you seriously think Mac OS X + Microsoft Virtual PC + Microsoft Windows XP + uTorrent has a smaller footprint than Mac OS X + JVM + Azureus?

  9. Re:BT clients with RSS? by gooseserbus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why not try one of the following:

    LH-ABC or ABC_OKC

    Borh of these are forks of the popular python-based open source bittorrent client ABC which runs on Linux (and is itself based on BitTornado which extended from from Original Bittorrent Core System, coded by Bram Cohen). These forks should therefore also in turn run on Linux. LH-ABC and ABC_OKC both have support for RSS.

    uTorrent a very small and popular closed source Microsoft Windows based bitorrent client. Has extensive support for RSS and can be run on Linux using Wine (I don't know how successfully but I know it can and has been done).

    G3 TorrentAnother open-source Python based bittorrent client the Original Bittorrent Core System, coded by Bram Cohen. It has support for RSS and runs on Linux (I think).

    Rufus Another open-source Python based bittorrent client (based on G3 Torrent) with support for RSS and runs on Linux (I think).

    ZipTorrent Another closed source (and supposedly small) Microsoft Windows based bitorrent client. Has support for RSS, other than that I don't know anything about it.

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  10. Re:Above the radar by microbrewer · · Score: 2, Informative

    The RIAA and MPPA sell content on a p2p network

    www.peerimpact.com

  11. uTorrent Azureus by mriker · · Score: 2, Informative

    I had been using Azureus for quite a long time, but recently started to look for an alternative because Azureus is such an enormous resource-hog. I wasn't optimistic; Azureus has a lot of great features that I didn't want to part with. Then I found uTorrent. It has most, if not all of the features that I loved about Azureus, and it's extremely resource-efficient. Minutes after I ran uTorrent for the first time, I was uninstalling Azureus.

  12. Re:I can only hope by Arker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your experience is not congruent with mine.

    I use it on OSX, have been for 3 years now. The GUI isn't perfect, yes, that's true, but I don't much care. It has the features I want exposed, even if it did take slightly longer to find them all. The interface is definitely a bit slow too, I'll grant... but it's no big deal.

    It does take a nice big chunk of memory, but I haven't experienced any 'leaks' and CPU usage, while significant, is stable. I generally close it if I'm going to play an FPS or the like, but it's not a problem to keep it open while using the web, email, or whatnot.

    And this is on a fairly old Mac, a ~600MgHz G4.

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  13. Re:"Platform?" by kv9 · · Score: 2, Informative
    i'd prefer a platformed nongui version, preferrably written in C so i wouldn't even notice it running :)

    it's your lucky day. rtorrent is written around a very nice C++ library (hence the site name), so you can even hack your own client pretty easily if you don't like that one. and it's really easy on the resources a vast improvement over all the python crazyness (i won't even mention azureus' java `magic'). highly recommended for console junkies. combine that with screen and you have yourself a fucking textual party. also for quick and dirty jobs i've had good experiences with ctorrent.

    disclaimer: yes i am a rtorrent fanboi, but on Windows uTorrent remains king.

  14. Re:"Platform?" by AnyoneEB · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, azureus used SWT (native widgets; same as Eclipse) last I checked... which was a long time ago.

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  15. Re:"Platform?" by Arker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Am I the only one who thinks that this really means that it is going to be the next Kazaa?

    No, you're not alone, you're in the company of all the other commentors that couldn't be bothered to read the article.

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  16. The problem is not Java by dwalsh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Azureus is not a 100% pure Java app. It uses SWT - IBMs embrace & extend for Java. SWT uses native peers, but it does not render well on other platforms (i.e. other than Windows).

    If Azureus used Swing, it would render aswell, or as badly, on OSX as everything else.

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  17. Re:I can only hope by DRM_is_Stupid · · Score: 2, Informative

    What the parent post and grand-parent post is missing in their comments is mention of whether they are using Macs with Intel Dual Core for Azureus. SWT (a component used by Azureus + Eclipse) haven't been ported to the Mac-Intel Architecture yet, and thus either requires Rosetta emulation or it just doesn"t properly work. It's been four months already, and still Adobe, SWT, all open source video players and Office suites haven't been ported yet to that platform. As you can see, this isn't a problem about Java, but a problem about applications switching to a new platform. If the Azureus team kept a 100% pure Java version of Azureus that used something like Swing, they wouldn't have to suffer the tradeoff that came with using JNI.