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The Increasing Importance of Community

Jono Bacon writes "With the success of Ubuntu and Fedora, and the advent of OpenSuSE and Freespire, are businesses and distributions paying more attention to the community? The Increasing Importance of Community discuss this change in focus. What do you all think? Is the community now more of a priority?"

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  1. Community Vs Market Share by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yeah, community is important. In fact, it's becoming one of the new buzzwords in the fortune 500 company I work for. Blame Rupert Murdoch and the success of MySpace for that.

    It's a novel idea but "Communities of Practice" are now an enforced thing to take part in where I work. That's right, these CoPs are supposed to give us an opportunity to partake in idea creation and discussion ... so they are mandatory (a minor flaw in my opinion).
    With the success of Ubuntu and Fedora, and the advent of OpenSuSE and Freespire, are businesses and distributions paying more attention to the community?
    I think businesses are concentrating on community only so far as it will go to get them ahead in their market.

    If I take the word "businesses" to mean literally any kind of business (not just that one operating system maker we all know and love), then I'd propose something like General Motors. Do you think General Motors values community within their company? Probably not. I'm sure they think about local communities but I doubt they're concerned with the communities within their company. That was just an example, I have nothing for or against GM.

    Being able to post on a forum (anonymously, if you prefer) about anything from your working conditions to an idea you had is vital to the happiness of the workers. However, I've had bosses that I've pitched this to who just read it as a waste of company time--they feared addicts working the threads 24/7 (much like I do on Slashdot). I would prefer if they would see it as an investment in idea exchanges and employee satisfaction. Ha! That's not their concern!

    Back to the original topic, I think that Linux distributions should be more concerned about their corner of the market. Microsoft is their competition. They make an amazing operating system. They aren't going to win the casual computer user by creating a community. They will win them through marketing and raising awareness. It's a cold hard thing to say but I think most of the developers for Linux should be concentrating on educating users about what they can provide. I learned about Linux in college from a friend but, looking back, there's really no reason why some flash advertisement on the side of a website couldn't have done the same.

    If you're looking for reasons to get new users,
    "Tired of forking money over to Microsoft?"
    would probably be more effective than
    "Join a community of people who will become abrasive if you're not at their level of intelligence!"

    Now, if you're looking at keeping the users involved with the OS and the development of it, this community thing is the answer. I just don't think Linux distros risk losing that support. Their fanbase is extremely solid--the problem is that it is minute compared to Microsoft's.
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    My work here is dung.
  2. The INCREASING importance of community? by bryankwalton · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not to knock ubuntu, fedora, freespire, and opensuse, but the Debian community has been around since 1993. It is a highly evolved community with established processes for handling the politics, policy, and code developed for it. It is interesting that Debian isn't even mentioned by the OP. The Debian community, IMHO, is the model for everything else.

    1. Re:The INCREASING importance of community? by kfg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Debian community, IMHO, is the model for everything else.

      We all know that Linux is nothing but community, but that isn't the issue at hand. The issue at hand is just what role does community play in the field of commercial distros such as Red Hat and SuSe.

      Get thee hence and read the actual article. It really isn't all that bad. You'll find that Ubuntu is brought up rather than Debian because Ubuntu is an attempt to make a commercially viable distro on the Debian model of community; and not just "ripping off" its code base for profit.

      This puts it in an entirely different catagory from either the true community supported distros such as Debian and the purely commercial distros such as Linspire. It seeks, and at the moment largely defines, the middle ground between the community and the commercial corporation. The very ground the article is addressing as its point of interest.

      Fedora, OpenSuSE and Freespire are essentially attempts to "reverse engineer" an Ubuntu type of community from a corporate culture. To bring "community" on board and retain relevance in the community drivin Linux world. They cannot attempt to reverse engineer a Debian type of community in the strict sense because they are all commercial distributions.

      Although I tend to detest its use in the IT field, the phrase "impedence mismatch" comes to mind.

      If it makes you feel any better Debian isn't specifically mentioned because Debian is the meta concept that the article stands upon. It is assumed as the natural state of things; and that we all share that assumption.

      KFG

  3. It is important by DarkNemesis618 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Without the Linux Community, I would never have been able to properly set up Ubuntu on my computer. It's nice to know that strangers are willing to get together and help complete newbs like myself get started with Linux.

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    What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?
  4. "Community" is another word for focus group by Trigun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But one that will help you fix your product, not just tell you what they like and don't like. And they'll do tech support for free, too.