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RIAA Targets LAN Filesharing at Universities

segphault writes "The RIAA has sent letters to 40 university presidents in 25 separate states informing them that students are engaging in filesharing on their campuses using the local network. Apparently, the RIAA wants to get universities to use filtering software on their networks to detect student filesharing. The RIAA did not disclose the methodology they used to determine that filesharing is occuring on those local networks, but it probably didn't involve asking permission. The article goes on to predict that the RIAA will eventually try to get the government to require use of anti-filesharing filtering technologies at universities."

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  1. Download while you still can by IntelliAdmin · · Score: 4, Informative
    Well it has been almost 6 years since Napster made its way into our lives? 6 Years Really? Lets look around and see what file sharing programs are left after the music and movie biz nuked the crap out of most of them.

    1. Emule - This is one of the best we found out there. Hint (Search for server.met on google to update your server list)

    2. Bearshare - Nice Gnutella client, lots of good hits

    3. Limewire - Another Gnutella client. It even works on the Mac!

    4. Shareaza - A beautiful Gnutella client with no spyware.

    5. BitTorrent - Perfect for downloading movies, or that latest linux distro

    6. KaZaa - Old favorite. Oh yea - Aussie users, you can't download - Yea Right!

    7. Azureus - BitTorrent client that works on Mac, Linux, and Windows 8. Morpheus - Wow. They are still around? Wha happened!

    9. Gnucleus - Open source Gnutella for you freeloading open source hippies out there - Yea I am talking about you

    10. Napster - Ah, just put this one here to see if you are still reading, and I guess for shits and grins too

    So there you have it folks. These are slim pickings. Get um while they still work!

    1. Re:Download while you still can by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 1, Informative

      utorrent - www.utorrent.com

    2. Re:Download while you still can by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Shareaza is actually a Gnutella, Gnutella 2 & E-Mule client

      And if you're serious about E-Mule, you'll probably want to use one of the other versions [German site alert]which provide in-depth tweakability.

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    3. Re:Download while you still can by paulius_g · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think that FrostWire deserves a mention aswell.

      Essentially, it's a open source Limewire client which connects to Gnutella. It looks like the "pro" version of Limewire, so it's easy to use but it's free and open source.

      Also, uTorrentdeserves a mention to be wicked-small and fast Torrent client for Windows. It only takes 155 KB of space!

    4. Re:Download while you still can by Schemat1c · · Score: 4, Informative

      Correcty me if I'm wrong, but providing a link to a bitTorrent client doesn't really have anything to do with the article.

      Okay I'll correcty you, it's called irony and it does have to do with the article. It illustrates the futility of the ongoing efforts of the RIAA to shut down file sharing by showing that options have actually increased which is the opposite of their intended results.

      Lighten up a bit and laugh, trust me it will feel good.

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    5. Re:Download while you still can by smidget2k4 · · Score: 3, Informative

      At a lot of uni's (mine included) they throttle BT for the sole reason that BT was taking up 50-60% of their total traffic for a while, so they throttle it down to make sure that it doesn't affect other uses. The Uni I go to has told me that they don't care less about what you download so long as the RIAA/MPAA/Microsoft doesn't come a-knockin' (some Microsoft fellas were watching a BT tracker and sent nice notices to two of my friends for downloading some MS Game, the Uni just said "don't do it again").

    6. Re:Download while you still can by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Some companies are now selling products that can identify traffic in near real-time based on its contents.

      i.e. it can automatically detect when you change your default BT ports.

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    7. Re:Download while you still can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The days of just being able to 'throttle' (Otherwise known as QoS or Quality of Service) based on port numbers is over. Almost any Cisco router (Even the older 2500 series) with the latest IOS can map QoS shaping (Throttling) to traffic signatures using a feature called NBAR (Network Based Application Recognition) then you can police traffic based on the signature of the payload (i.e. bittorrent, and many other P2P software) and set it down to 64Kbps (or lower) regardless of the port it is running on. Firewalls and routers are too smart now to play the 'I'll just use another port" game. I have set this up on MANY networks over the past 6 months. Hate to be the one to give bad news!!

    8. Re:Download while you still can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      Actually, Kazaa still has it's uses. I'll explain.


      You were half correct in stating that Kazaa hashes only part of a file, except for the fact which part it hashes. Kazaa only hashes the first 256Kb of a file.


      At the moment I use eMule to download stuff, but it is slow as hell. So I download the same file from Kazaa (same title, same size), but most of the time I'll get an incorrect file (incomplete, other hash, errors, etc...). However, almost 95% of the file is intact!


      So I transfer the file to eMule (just replace it's download with the Kazaa .dat file) and let eMule rehash the file. Then, eMule will only need to download the corrupted parts.


      Together, this is way way faster then using either of one to get a correct file.

  2. Re:who defined insanity by Doggan · · Score: 0, Informative

    I don't remember, maybe it was Einstein who said the definition of insanity was to repeatedly do something and expect a different result. Is the RIAA insane?

    It was Ben Franklin. Ironically, I received a Napster advertisement when I went to the above site.

  3. Pretty Common by Dr+Reducto · · Score: 2, Informative

    This isn't anything new. The RIAA has been policing campus network traffic. USC's campus DC++ hub was busted by the RIAA after the RIAA came in and convinced the University to allow them access.

    All the RIAA has to do is politely ask (more like......we will hold you harmless if we are given access to investigate) and the Universities usually will bow in and allow access to the campus network.

    As for stopping campus filesharing, it's pretty hard to stop as long as it stays within the borders. And moreover, with students in such close physical contact, it's fairly easy to set up rogue networks, or even just swap burned DVDs/memory sticks.

  4. As A University Network Administrator... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ... over my cold festering corpse will I filter out filesharing on the LAN.

    There are plenty of legitimate LAN filesharing uses, and we use quite a few of them for perfectly legitimate needs (e.g., we share A/V updates/definitions via filesharing technology, etc.)

    Yeah, we "could" simply block stuff like OurTunes and crap like that, but then the developers will just switch to doing things like allowing users to use CIFS or AFS shares, which no campus in the world can simply disallow. They're far too prevalent.

    In other words: Fighting it is a pointeless gesture, and I won't commit man-hours -- which are already far too overtaxed in Universities -- to being sucked down that particular black hole.

  5. Re:The RIAA should just cut to the chase by utlemming · · Score: 2, Informative

    No offense, but how on earth is that "insightful".

    The difference between RIAA and car insurance is that car insurance is designed to protect the public interest. The analogy doesn't hold an ounce of weight. Car insurance is a civil responsability of those who own cars to protect other people on the road from bearing the weight of someone else's liability. And with the odds of getting into a car accident, it makes sense.

    A RIAA tax does nothing to protect the public interest.
    Car insurance does.

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  6. Re:Seems Reasonable To Me by megabyte405 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do a bit of research on Common Carrier status, and you'll see why not only schools shouldn't be liable, if they do any filtering beyond simple traffic shaping, it is actually counter to their interests. (That is, it makes them liable because they lose common carrier status)...

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  7. Re:How do they know by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 2, Informative
    That said, I really have to question how much jurisdiction the RIAA should be allowed to have on a private network. Surely it's up the universities themselves to decide what traffic they do/don't allow within the confines of their own LAN.

    Absolutely! The law has no place here.

    Whilst the RIAA shouldn't have jurisdiction over what happens on that private network, there is also that minor matter of the illegal sharing of their work.

    What if some "Child Protection" group wanted to prevent child porn being shared across a University LAN... Different? "Criminal"? I mean... I think the RIAA are a bunch of corporate whores and felons of the highest order, but I'm not sure why "it's a private LAN, they shouldn't be able to know what goes on on it" has suddenly become an excuse for why it's alright to undertake illegal activities and try to shield them with a AUP, etc, etc. Again, an example... the child porn ring on a secured VPN - does anyone really think that 'it's a VPN that you had no right to know about' is a valid defense?

    Major disclaimer: this is all theorising, apropos of the question of any laws being broken in the process of obtaining such information.

    Interesting theory: if disclosure of such network information is against the AUP of a university network, would the operator of said network (or the victim of a lawsuit from the RIAA as a result) have grounds to sue the RIAA for 'tortious interference'? Particularly with the ponderings of inducements being paid to 'inform'. (Tortious interference is where a third party knowingly encourages or induces a party to a contract with a second party to break that contract.)

  8. Re:From a college student at an effected Universit by ECELonghorn · · Score: 3, Informative
    Stay in school kid. The phrase is "could not care less" not "could care less." If you were in school learning something you would have the critical thinking skills to not sound so stupid.

    Strangely enough, I will say I thought about the expression when I typed it. I did a makeshift check on google...
    • "could not care less" returns about 321,000 Results
    • "could care less" returns about 5,480,000 Results
    Check the hit count yourself; there really is that big of difference in results. I merely stuck with the most common usage.




    Disclaimer: For anyone who did happen to think critically about what I said, I will qualify that "couldn't care less" returns about 3,270,000 Results. That was the original cliche phrase, which over time has evolved for whatever reason to omit the "not" part. The real bottom line is that both versions are almost equally used, and the average person could care less which version you pick. ;-)
  9. offtopic, but... by toadlife · · Score: 2, Informative
    "I still blame the McDonalds 'Hot Coffee' incident."


    There are many great examples of abuse in the civil courts, but I don't think the McDonalds coffee lawsuit is one of them.

    See this.
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  10. Re:Seems Reasonable To Me by Kjella · · Score: 3, Informative

    The issue here is redistribution. I believe that copyright reform is in order, too, but don't try to cast it as a privacy issue when it isn't.

    Enforcement of copyright is most certainly a privacy issue. For comparison, let's say you have a thief and an owner of physical goods. The owner can protect himself by simply protecting his own property. Now let's instead say you have two people that wish to swap copyrighted works, and a copyright holder. In order to know whether or not copyright infringement is happening, the copyright holder will need to know what the other two are doing. There have been several suggestions which basicly boil down to "Let me see everything you're doing, so I can be sure you're not infringing copyright", and that would be a gross violation of privacy. Checking out P2P nets for files people have shared publicly isn't a privacy issue though.

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